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60
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Accention & Uplifting
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Father Pat
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2025-06-01
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2025-06-01-accention-and-uplifting-60.mp3
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948
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I often tell people that, you know, this is my favorite scripture, this is my favorite, this is it. But I learned early on at seminary that when it comes to my own spiritual theology in the church, that Ascension is my favorite. I wrote papers on it. The larger thesis, my scripture was on the scriptures of the Ascension, my favorite. Moral theology, the theology of the Ascension. I mean, because I think it's where we are called to be in this age is both Pentecost and Ascension and the way the two constantly come together. We are, we aren't beyond, but I mean, you know, the resurrection sort of begins, the idea of church, and then we live in Ascension and Pentecost until the final day. And what that means for us is that we are moving upward. Jesus comes down, there's a little private prayer said here at the altar that I think for me sums up a lot of it. You never hear it. There's a whole bunch of little prayers that you don't hear. And they say it's sotoboce, under the voice you're supposed to say them. And so one of them is when I pour the little drop of water into the chalice of wine. The water is supposed to represent humanity, the wine divinity. So I put a little drop in because we are absorbed into the basses of divinity, not the other way around. We're the smaller part. But the prayer is, through the mingling of this water and wine, may we come to share in the divinity of Christ, who humbled himself to share in our humanity. That Jesus comes down and takes on humanity for one purpose, to drag it back up with him at the Ascension. And why it's so funny because you'll always hear people talk about, you know, that the beginning of real salvation is in the crucifixion and the death and resurrection. And the beginning of the church is Pentecost. Ascension, at least I didn't get nailed when I did this theology, from one of theirs. Ascension is, according especially to theologians like Casper, it is the beginning of heaven. This is the birth of heaven. Humanity in the Godhead. Jesus takes humanity and when he brings that humanity back up, what do we say? What is heaven? It's where we live with God in perfect union forever. That starts with the humanity of Jesus living with God. He kind of moves out of this physical realm with us and takes the humanity with him. And the thing about humanity is, humanity always seeks more humanity. And so we are all called up with it. What Casper said that got me started on this, Walter Casper, Greek theologian in the church, that the ascension, it's not incorrect, he said, but it's a bad way. We should never tell people the ascension happened 2,000 years ago. The ascension began 2,000 years ago. And every time another member of the body of Christ has ascended, it's the ascension. And this is why in the catechism, even though it doesn't say that the people who are baptized will make it to heaven, it does say baptism is an assurance of salvation. And the way he puts it, it's that a lot of people in the church do not want to embrace this because it's too hopeful or more importantly, it gives hope to all the wrong people. And that is, he says, until every last, think what this says about hell, until every last member of the body of Christ is ascended, Christ is never fully ascended to hell. That's God's commitment to us. God's commitment is Jesus is not fully ascended until every last member of the body is. Where the head has gone, the body must follow. And that's prayer after prayer in our liturgy. And so it's this almost intense promise that God will find a way to break through to every one of us and help us to become the people who make sense in heaven. What it leaves us as a mission is to do for others what Jesus did for us. You know, Jesus came down to lift us up. If you really want to put at a missionary level, we try to word it so many ways. Well, help the poor and visit the sick and take care of one another. It is all summed up in lift people up. Everyone who comes into your orbit this week, will they leave it feeling better about themselves than when they arrived or worse? Or probably most tragically, will you have no effect on them at all? When people come into our orbit, how do we lead them? And I think religion has too long taken this, the idea that, well, what you have to do is make sure they know they're sinners. You have to make sure they know they're failing. You have to make sure they know it. No one has ever put themselves into the work of the path because someone made them feel worse about themselves. Making people feel worse about themselves will not make them better people. It's kind of the trick of parenting. And I always want to tread lightly because I know 95% of parents in this room have probably used this phrase. Were I a parent, I would have used it a lot. And we're trying to be very gentle with children. And Father John Philenbach used to say, it's a step in the right direction, but we want to go even further. Rather than, a century ago, you were a bad kid for doing that. You're bad. That's a bad person. I want a bad girl. What a bad boy. No child has ever become better because you convinced them they were bad. They might behave better when you're a guru, but convince them they're a bad person. That will not serve them well. And what we've gone to, that is the one that he questioned next was, well, you know, I'm very disappointed in you. He says, well, there's nothing wrong with them knowing that, but if they done something wrong, your disappointment is not really the point. I just want you to know you should go through your whole life. What's your moral compass? Don't disappoint mom or dad. You know how many 40-year-olds are in therapy? Because they're still trying not to disappoint mom. He said, the perfect parent, and I actually know two perfect parents in Chicago. They're almost here, Katie. They take the, without sounding this trite or this cliche, they always take the, you're better than that. You can do better. And if you do that, they're not disappointed, they're concerned. Because I think that choice is going to mess you up down the road. They're convincing them that they want to convince their children that they're good enough to invest effort in their own life. Make people feel better about themselves. No one has ever pulled themselves out of addiction because they finally felt lousy enough about themselves. They may hit rock bottom. What happens though is some voice lets them know, I deserve better than this from me. Something picks them up. We have to be a people who find ways that we can, sometimes we have to say to someone, you know, this sort of behavior really hurts me, this, that, and the other. There are ways to say that by saying, you know, I'm only saying this because of how much I value our friendship and I know that this is a little thing and, you know, I just want you to be aware of it. There are ways that we invite people in rather than beating them down. You know, the example I want to tattle on myself all the time with is, you know, when you're in traffic and you go around someone because they're going slow. And I'm going to make this gentle. Let's assume they're going under the speed limit when I say they're going slow. And there's a lane. There is nothing wrong with saying they're going this speed and I want to go this speed. You go around them. That's what you're supposed to do. But every once in a while when you've had to stay behind them for too long and you go around them, you have to do this to me. Because it's not about me going faster. It's about me going faster and them knowing that I disappointed them. I need them to know that I don't think, well, why? Because as soon as I make them feel lousy about themselves, maybe they'll become better people. We don't make anyone better by making them feel worse. Yes, we should have regret over things we've done, but it turns quickly into shame over who we are and that will never lead us to heaven. Try to find the scriptures where Jesus makes people feel bad about themselves. The only people he goes after are religious leaders who are making other people feel bad about themselves. It's the only kind everywhere who do that. And so I think when people come in to our orbit for a while, how good are we at lifting them up? This irritating couple in Chicago, John and Patty, they're long beyond parity at this point, but he was an ER attending doctor and that's to work and it's tough on a marriage. But he was really good. You know, if John came home late, it was for one reason and that was, I mean, it was an absolute emergency. He couldn't, he was never one of those that couldn't hand off something to the next doctor if he was able to. There was no ego involved. If it was something where it was just, it was urgent. So he was never eight hours late. He was never, I mean, he might be a little late. And Patty always said to me, oh, every four weeks or so he is late. It was like for an ER doc. So I have to tell you that because I want you to know this is not like, oh, that's how once a spouse just abuses the other. No, no. He was very good about it. He was all mode. He got, if he was going to be home for dinner, he was home for dinner. And she said about three times a year he really could make it out. Unfortunately, one of those times was his 10th anniversary with, you know, eight dinner guests at home and his wife, toasty and empty chair. He said to me and he said, you know, it's the first time in my life I, he's cause they have great relationship. He goes, I look forward to going home. It's the first time in my entire marriage. I did not want to go home. He said, I just knew, I knew she was crushed. I knew she was going to be mad. I knew I deserved it. But clearly this was not something he did all the time. So he walks in and this is her chins. At that moment, she can either bring him to his knees or she can lift him up. And he came in and he said, you know, let me just say, and she said, let me stop you. You rarely do this and you can't control when it happens. And if that's the price I pay for being married to a hero, so be it. Why not experience the power of lifting Sonata? Why not experience that power? You know, that I'm going to, I'm going to let them know what's wrong with God. There's, there's no real power in that. There's never enough of it. It never feeds us. We can never be enough. We can never be been enough to enough people. I mean, I tried and I screwed just it will never satisfy me. You know, it's what it means to do something like that and, and, and move on. I think for the Ascension this week, so that we're really ready to receive the spirit. Everyone who has a meaningful interaction with you, ask yourself, is there a way to help them to lead feeling better about who they are then rather than, than worse, you know? Oh, I, I just messed up. Welcome to the club. Oh, good, good. We're closer now. You know, the last thing I need is a perfect friend. You know, I mean, how do we help people feel better about themselves? We don't have to lie. People mess up. People mess up. We don't have to pretend they didn't mess up. We can see what is good in them. Jesus comes down and as I've told you dozens of times, he gets nothing for himself out of coming down and suffering. He, he starts this whole thing as God. There is no upgrade. He's not now God point two. There's no upgrade. He does it to lift others up. If we're going to follow Jesus, we will start by lifting people up and people who come to us for whatever reason will leave feeling better about themselves rather than worse. The first makes us feel temporarily a little powerful. The second converts others to the love of Christ.", "segments": [{"id": 0, "seek": 0, "start": 0.0, "end": 5.28000020980835, "text": " The Lord be with you. And with your spirit. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Luke.", "tokens": [50364, 440, 3257, 312, 365, 291, 13, 400, 365, 428, 3797, 13, 316, 3760, 490, 264, 6295, 23163, 4650, 281, 13044, 13, 50628], "temperature": 0.0, "avg_logprob": -0.2571847140789032, "compression_ratio": 1.6536965370178223, "no_speech_prob": 0.0024149541277438402}, {"id": 1, "seek": 0, "start": 5.28000020980835, "end": 9.600000381469727, "text": " Glory be to the Lord. 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They're almost here, Katie.", "tokens": [51260, 458, 732, 2176, 3152, 294, 9525, 13, 814, 434, 1920, 510, 11, 19602, 13, 51492], "temperature": 0.0, "avg_logprob": -0.263846218585968, "compression_ratio": 1.4885845184326172, "no_speech_prob": 6.0117199609521776e-05}, {"id": 76, "seek": 51840, "start": 518.719970703125, "end": 529.0399780273438, "text": " They take the, without sounding this trite or this cliche, they always take the,", "tokens": [50380, 814, 747, 264, 11, 1553, 24931, 341, 504, 642, 420, 341, 46705, 11, 436, 1009, 747, 264, 11, 50896], "temperature": 0.0, "avg_logprob": -0.2920386791229248, "compression_ratio": 1.7085427045822144, "no_speech_prob": 0.0010482380166649818}, {"id": 77, "seek": 51840, "start": 529.0399780273438, "end": 535.6799926757812, "text": " you're better than that. You can do better. 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This irritating couple in Chicago,", "tokens": [50396, 281, 527, 13991, 337, 257, 1339, 11, 577, 665, 366, 321, 412, 375, 20930, 552, 493, 30, 639, 45971, 1916, 294, 9525, 11, 50860], "temperature": 0.0, "avg_logprob": -0.3203474283218384, "compression_ratio": 1.426229476928711, "no_speech_prob": 0.0031713605858385563}, {"id": 104, "seek": 67936, "start": 691.0399780273438, "end": 699.280029296875, "text": " John and Patty, they're long beyond parity at this point, but he was an ER attending", "tokens": [50948, 2619, 293, 44116, 11, 436, 434, 938, 4399, 44747, 412, 341, 935, 11, 457, 415, 390, 364, 14929, 15862, 51360], "temperature": 0.0, "avg_logprob": -0.3203474283218384, "compression_ratio": 1.426229476928711, "no_speech_prob": 0.0031713605858385563}, {"id": 105, "seek": 67936, "start": 699.280029296875, "end": 705.0399780273438, "text": " doctor and that's to work and it's tough on a marriage. 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The Lord WEBVTT
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The Lord be with you. And with your spirit. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Luke.
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Glory be to the Lord. Jesus said to his disciples,
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thus it is written that the Christ would suffer and rise from the dead on the third day
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and then repentance for the forgiveness of sins would be preached in his name to all the nations
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beginning from Jerusalem. You are witnesses of these things and behold I am sending the promise
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of my father upon you. But stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high.
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Then he led them out as far as Bethany, raised his hands and blessed them. As he blessed them
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he parted from them and was taken up to heaven. They did him homage and then returned to Jerusalem
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with great joy. And they were continually in the temple praising God. The Gospel of the Lord.
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Praise you Jesus.
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I often tell people that, you know, this is my favorite scripture, this is my favorite,
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this is it. But I learned early on at seminary that when it comes to my own spiritual theology
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in the church, that Ascension is my favorite. I wrote papers on it. The larger thesis,
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my scripture was on the scriptures of the Ascension, my favorite. Moral theology,
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the theology of the Ascension. I mean, because I think it's where we are called to be in this age
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is both Pentecost and Ascension and the way the two constantly come together.
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We are, we aren't beyond, but I mean, you know, the resurrection sort of begins,
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the idea of church, and then we live in Ascension and Pentecost until the final day.
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And what that means for us is that we are moving upward. Jesus comes down, there's a little private
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prayer said here at the altar that I think for me sums up a lot of it. You never hear it. There's
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a whole bunch of little prayers that you don't hear. And they say it's sotoboce, under the voice
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you're supposed to say them. And so one of them is when I pour the little drop of water into the
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chalice of wine. The water is supposed to represent humanity, the wine divinity. So I put a little drop
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in because we are absorbed into the basses of divinity, not the other way around. We're the
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smaller part. But the prayer is, through the mingling of this water and wine, may we come to
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share in the divinity of Christ, who humbled himself to share in our humanity. That Jesus
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comes down and takes on humanity for one purpose, to drag it back up with him at the Ascension.
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And why it's so funny because you'll always hear people talk about, you know, that the beginning
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of real salvation is in the crucifixion and the death and resurrection. And the beginning of the
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church is Pentecost. Ascension, at least I didn't get nailed when I did this theology,
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from one of theirs. Ascension is, according especially to theologians like Casper,
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it is the beginning of heaven. This is the birth of heaven. Humanity in the Godhead. Jesus takes
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humanity and when he brings that humanity back up, what do we say? What is heaven?
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It's where we live with God in perfect union forever. That starts with the humanity of Jesus
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living with God. He kind of moves out of this physical realm with us and takes the humanity
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with him. And the thing about humanity is, humanity always seeks more humanity.
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And so we are all called up with it. What Casper said that got me started on this,
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Walter Casper, Greek theologian in the church, that the ascension, it's not incorrect, he said,
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but it's a bad way. We should never tell people the ascension happened 2,000 years ago.
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The ascension began 2,000 years ago. And every time another member of the body of Christ has
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ascended, it's the ascension. And this is why in the catechism, even though it doesn't say that
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the people who are baptized will make it to heaven, it does say baptism is an assurance
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of salvation. And the way he puts it, it's that a lot of people in the church do not want to
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embrace this because it's too hopeful or more importantly, it gives hope to all the wrong
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people. And that is, he says, until every last, think what this says about hell,
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until every last member of the body of Christ is ascended, Christ is never fully ascended to hell.
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That's God's commitment to us. God's commitment is Jesus is not fully ascended until every last
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member of the body is. Where the head has gone, the body must follow. And that's prayer after
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prayer in our liturgy. And so it's this almost intense promise that God will find a way to
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break through to every one of us and help us to become the people who make sense in heaven.
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What it leaves us as a mission is to do for others what Jesus did for us.
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You know, Jesus came down to lift us up. If you really want to put at a missionary level,
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we try to word it so many ways. Well, help the poor and visit the sick and take care of one
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another. It is all summed up in lift people up. Everyone who comes into your orbit this week,
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will they leave it feeling better about themselves than when they arrived or worse?
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Or probably most tragically, will you have no effect on them at all?
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When people come into our orbit, how do we lead them? And I think religion has too long taken this,
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the idea that, well, what you have to do is make sure they know they're sinners. You have to make
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sure they know they're failing. You have to make sure they know it. No one has ever
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put themselves into the work of the path because someone made them feel worse about themselves.
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Making people feel worse about themselves will not make them better people.
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It's kind of the trick of parenting. And I always want to tread lightly because I know
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95% of parents in this room have probably used this phrase.
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Were I a parent, I would have used it a lot.
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And we're trying to be very gentle with children. And Father John Philenbach used to say,
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it's a step in the right direction, but we want to go even further. Rather than,
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a century ago, you were a bad kid for doing that. You're bad. That's a bad person. I want a bad
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girl. What a bad boy. No child has ever become better because you convinced them they were bad.
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They might behave better when you're a guru, but convince them they're a bad person.
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That will not serve them well. And what we've gone to, that is the one that he questioned next was,
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well, you know, I'm very disappointed in you. He says, well, there's nothing wrong with them
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knowing that, but if they done something wrong, your disappointment is not really the point.
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I just want you to know you should go through your whole life. What's your moral compass?
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Don't disappoint mom or dad. You know how many 40-year-olds are in therapy?
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Because they're still trying not to disappoint mom. He said, the perfect parent, and I actually
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know two perfect parents in Chicago. They're almost here, Katie.
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They take the, without sounding this trite or this cliche, they always take the,
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you're better than that. You can do better. And if you do that, they're not disappointed,
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they're concerned. Because I think that choice is going to mess you up down the road.
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They're convincing them that they want to convince their children that they're good
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enough to invest effort in their own life. Make people feel better about themselves.
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No one has ever pulled themselves out of addiction because they finally felt lousy
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enough about themselves. They may hit rock bottom. What happens though is some voice
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lets them know, I deserve better than this from me. Something picks them up.
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We have to be a people who find ways that we can, sometimes we have to say to someone,
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you know, this sort of behavior really hurts me, this, that, and the other. There are ways to say
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that by saying, you know, I'm only saying this because of how much I value our friendship and
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I know that this is a little thing and, you know, I just want you to be aware of it.
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There are ways that we invite people in rather than beating them down.
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You know, the example I want to tattle on myself all the time with is, you know,
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when you're in traffic and you go around someone because they're going slow.
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And I'm going to make this gentle. Let's assume they're going under the speed limit when I say
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they're going slow. And there's a lane. There is nothing wrong with saying they're going this
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speed and I want to go this speed. You go around them. That's what you're supposed to do.
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But every once in a while when you've had to stay behind them for too long and you go around
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them, you have to do this to me. Because it's not about me going faster. It's about me going
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faster and them knowing that I disappointed them. I need them to know that I don't think, well,
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why? Because as soon as I make them feel lousy about themselves, maybe they'll become better
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people. We don't make anyone better by making them feel worse. Yes, we should have regret over
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things we've done, but it turns quickly into shame over who we are and that will never lead
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us to heaven. Try to find the scriptures where Jesus makes people feel bad about themselves.
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The only people he goes after are religious leaders who are making other people feel bad
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about themselves. It's the only kind everywhere who do that. And so I think when people come in
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to our orbit for a while, how good are we at lifting them up? This irritating couple in Chicago,
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John and Patty, they're long beyond parity at this point, but he was an ER attending
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doctor and that's to work and it's tough on a marriage. But he was really good.
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You know, if John came home late, it was for one reason and that was,
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I mean, it was an absolute emergency. He couldn't, he was never one of those that couldn't hand off
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something to the next doctor if he was able to. There was no ego involved. If it was something
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where it was just, it was urgent. So he was never eight hours late. He was never, I mean,
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he might be a little late. And Patty always said to me, oh, every four weeks or so he is late.
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It was like for an ER doc. So I have to tell you that because I want you to know this is not like,
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oh, that's how once a spouse just abuses the other. No, no. He was very good about it. He was all
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mode. He got, if he was going to be home for dinner, he was home for dinner.
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And she said about three times a year he really could make it out. Unfortunately,
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one of those times was his 10th anniversary with, you know, eight dinner guests at home
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and his wife, toasty and empty chair. He said to me and he said, you know, it's the first time
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in my life I, he's cause they have great relationship. He goes, I look forward to
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going home. It's the first time in my entire marriage. I did not want to go home. He said,
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I just knew, I knew she was crushed. I knew she was going to be mad. I knew I deserved it.
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But clearly this was not something he did all the time. So he walks in and this is her chins.
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At that moment, she can either bring him to his knees or she can lift him up. And he came in and
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he said, you know, let me just say, and she said, let me stop you. You rarely do this and you can't
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control when it happens. And if that's the price I pay for being married to a hero, so be it.
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Why not experience the power of lifting Sonata?
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Why not experience that power? You know, that I'm going to, I'm going to let them know what's
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wrong with God. There's, there's no real power in that. There's never enough of it. It never feeds
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us. We can never be enough. We can never be been enough to enough people. I mean, I tried and I
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screwed just it will never satisfy me. You know, it's what it means to do something like that
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and, and, and move on. I think for the Ascension this week, so that we're really ready to receive
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the spirit. Everyone who has a meaningful interaction with you, ask yourself, is there a way
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to help them to lead feeling better about who they are then rather than, than worse, you know?
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Oh, I, I just messed up. Welcome to the club. Oh, good, good. We're closer now.
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You know, the last thing I need is a perfect friend.
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You know, I mean, how do we help people feel better about themselves? We don't have to lie.
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People mess up. People mess up. We don't have to pretend they didn't mess up.
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We can see what is good in them. Jesus comes down and as I've told you dozens of times,
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he gets nothing for himself out of coming down and suffering. He, he starts this whole thing
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as God. There is no upgrade. He's not now God point two. There's no upgrade. He does it to
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lift others up. If we're going to follow Jesus, we will start by lifting people up and people
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who come to us for whatever reason will leave feeling better about themselves rather than worse.
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The first makes us feel temporarily a little powerful. The second converts others to the love
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Father Pat’s message centers on the theological an Father Pat’s message centers on the theological and spiritual significance of the Ascension of Christ, which he considers the most profound mystery within Christian doctrine. He teaches that the Ascension is not a past event but an ongoing divine action in which humanity is continually being lifted toward union with God. Christ’s raising of human nature into the Godhead is not just symbolic—it inaugurates heaven itself. As such, our mission as followers of Christ is to emulate his redemptive work by lifting others up, affirming their dignity, and helping them recognize their worth and possibility for transformation. True discipleship, according to Father Pat, is not about condemnation or guilt but about hope, encouragement, and the relentless invitation to rise.
Father Pat develops a rich theological reflection on the Ascension as not merely a historical moment, but as the beginning of heaven itself. Drawing on the insights of theologians like Walter Kasper, he emphasizes that the Ascension marks the moment when Jesus, fully divine and fully human, brings humanity into the divine life. This is not an isolated event from 2,000 years ago but an ongoing process wherein Christ continues to draw the human race into the heart of God. Father Pat stresses that Jesus' return to the Father with human nature is the foundational act of salvation’s completion; it is the divine guarantee that we, too, are meant for heaven. The Ascension reveals not only where Christ has gone, but where we are all destined, as members of his body.
This theological truth carries profound pastoral implications. Father Pat challenges a spiritual culture often focused on guilt, shame, and exposure of sin. Instead, he invites Christians to reimagine their mission as one of uplifting others. He critiques the tendency within religious communities and even parenting to correct by inducing shame or disappointment. Instead of saying, “You’re bad,” or “I’m disappointed in you,” the more Christ-like approach is, “You’re better than this.” This reflects the belief that people grow not by being diminished, but by being reminded of their inherent goodness and potential. God’s salvific work is rooted in love that elevates rather than condemns. Jesus did not come to expose our unworthiness, but to affirm our belovedness and call us higher.
Father Pat also reflects on liturgical symbolism, such as the quiet prayer said when mixing water and wine at the altar. The drop of water symbolizes humanity being absorbed into divinity—underscoring that salvation is not God becoming more human, but humanity being taken up into the divine. This act is not merely liturgical poetry; it is the core of the Ascension’s meaning. Jesus came down not to remain among us physically forever, but to bring us with him into eternal communion with God. Heaven, then, is not a distant reward but a present, unfolding reality that begins with Christ and continues as each of us is drawn into divine life.
The call, then, is to imitate Christ’s lifting of humanity. Father Pat insists that real spiritual power lies not in judgment but in encouragement. He shares stories—both humorous and poignant—showing how small acts of grace, like a forgiving spouse or a kind friend, can embody the Ascension’s spirit. Even something as mundane as a traffic encounter becomes a moment to choose between petty superiority or grace. He asks us to reflect: when people leave our presence, do they feel better about themselves—or worse? Do we help them recognize their capacity for growth, or do we burden them with shame?
Ultimately, Father Pat’s message is a call to live Pentecost and Ascension together: to be filled with the Spirit and to lift others as Christ lifted us. The Ascension is not about Jesus leaving us—it’s about him drawing us with him into the life of God. Our task is to continue that mission, to embody the hope of the Gospel by affirming the dignity, worth, and divine destiny of every person we encounter. To follow Jesus, then, is to be a people who lift others up....
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In our world today, especially since the Enlightenment, those wonderful French people gave us the Enlightenment that has moved us into great scientific feats and all those kinds of things, but the Enlightenment is about the individual. And we've lost the sense of community. And that trickles down because when we think about sin and evil in the world, we generally tend to think about ourselves. How am I acting? How is it that I am viewed by God? How is my relationship with God? Am I being good enough? Will I get to heaven? Will God give me what I need to get through all of this? Will God forgive me? Which are all appropriate things to worry about. But scripturally, sin is much less individual and it is much more communal. And so when the prophets come, the prophets aren't so much railing against individual people. Sometimes they do, the king, but the king is a symbol, right? The king is the symbol of the whole country. And they are speaking something against the societal, this communal, societal way of being. Said, you've lost your way. That's what they keep saying. Now, Jeremiah wasn't thrown into the cistern because he was saying, king, you've got to be better. What he was addressing was the whole culture that had grown up in Jerusalem and in Judah. So Judah is kind of surrounded. You have the Assyrian empire in the north, who has conquered the northern kingdom, what we call Samaria, what we know of as Samaria. Would be Galilee in most places. And you have the Babylonians on the east and they are a rising empire and they and the Assyrians are at war with each other. And you have the Egyptians on the south, another big, huge, powerful kingdom. And on the west, you have the sea. So they're sort of boxed in. So what Judah starts to do, kingdom of Judah, they start to make all these political alliances. You know, and they're hoping that perhaps by sleight of hand, they can eke out another little bit. But what happens as they eke out another little bit of time, is that they give more of their soul to whoever it is they're trying to negotiate with. The Babylonians, the Assyrians, the Egyptians, maybe even the fish in the sea, who knows. So they end up in a spot that is so far away from what they were intended to be, that God sends prophets to try and bring them back. So Israel was intended to be a people who trusted in God, who trusted deeply in God, whether they had overlords or independents, whether they had famine or plenty. That's what God wanted. That was the whole idea. And they were to be assigned to the world of that. The seed, if you will, the little bit of leaven that would grow up and make everything better. But instead they turned into a political reality. And all of a sudden they had borders and cities with walls and they needed to protect things. So then the Assyrians come and they, you know, And then the Babylonians come and they surround Jerusalem. And then the Egyptians come and the Babylonians leave Jerusalem, go off to fight the Egyptians. And then a couple of years later, they come back and surround Jerusalem again. And in the midst of all of that is Jeremiah. And Jeremiah is saying to the people, Surrender. Now, how would you feel if I stood up here and said, You know how to deal with Russia? You know how to deal with China? Surrender. You'd say, what? What in the world are you asking? That's why they threw Jeremiah down that cistern. Because he was trying to say something to the people about their life of faith and their relationship to God. And it was heard politically. And so what you do in order to be faithful to who you are, Jeremiah says, is surrender. But the king is saying, we surrender, we lose everything. Prophet's words are really hard. You've all heard of Ben Salmon. Ben Salmon was the father of a priest. I actually knew him, Charlie Salmon, who was a priest for the Archdiocese of Denver. Ben Salmon was a conscientious objector during World War I. And as a result of that, because he refused to go to war, the result of that was disaster for his family. He couldn't get a job, getting imprisoned. He spent a bunch of years in, I think Leavenworth. And it was just, it was a terrible thing because he was too much of a threat. Now, Ben Salmon was not making a political statement. He was making a faith statement that was heard politically. Now, all of our faith statements actually do have a lot of political things that they, that kind of come along with it, right? So we have three volunteers here who come from all over the world. So we have one that comes to us from Rhode Island. But before she was in Rhode Island, she was in Nigeria and had to come here for difficult reasons. We have another person who is here from Denver. But before that, she was in Somalia, in Eritrea. I don't know why I keep saying Somalia, I keep saying that. In Eritrea, where she too had to escape from difficult things. And we have one who is here from Wisconsin, by way of Texas. Too exotic place to be in. So, come from all over the world and bring these very unique experiences of church from other parts of the world. And they come here to say something that is actually, in these days, quite prophetic. Now, they don't come here to be political spokespeople. They come here to serve the poor. They come here in the spirit of St. Vincent de Paul to say, the poor matter more than the jets. Not the New York jets, the ones that fly around in the sky. That the poor matter more than the country club. That the poor matter more than your retirement account. You know, we're gonna take up a second collection today for that. For the Steve's retirement account. Actually, for retired priests. I was thinking I'd come up here with a cane so that you don't feel sorry for me. But more important than that are the poor. More important than protecting our belongings. More important than protecting what we claim as ours. Our way of life. Our way of thinking. Our way of thinking. That's a very prophetic thing to say. You know, when we hear the prophet's voices, how do we react? You know, we can't just say, well, you know, I'm speaking against this stupid power that we have here. No, you're speaking against or you're living in a way that makes a comment on a culture. On a society, which is all of us. How much do I care for the poor? How much am I willing to give up so that we begin to move in a more just, in a more open, in a more faithful way? Because indeed, as a people, we too have lost our way. We too have kind of gotten off the road. Not as people of the United States, but as Christians. Because we have individualized holiness. Holiness is what I do. Holiness is what I do. It's how good I am. It's how good I pray. And that's not what Christianity is about. Christianity is about the us. I can't go to heaven without all of you. And that's the message that we have. That's the fire that Jesus wants to set on the earth. And that's also what brings about the division. That's also what brings about the baptism that Jesus will be baptized in. That's the challenge for us. First, to hear that word of the prophet inviting us to look at everything in a different way. To look at how I relate in a neighborhood, in a parish, in this country, in a different way. To begin to see everyone, most especially those who are poor. Those who are in need. Those who need something more. To see them as people. To see them as Christ. Not so that I can do something that makes me feel good. Yeah, I gave the poor this money. Isn't that wonderful? No, it's to change the rules. Why is this person hungry in the first place? How have we as a community failed to take care of this person? That's an even harder question to ask. 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The Lord WEBVTT
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The Lord be with you. Let us listen to the good news of Jesus from the Gospel of
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Saint Luke. Jesus said to his disciples, I have come to set fire on the earth. How
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I wish it were already blazing. There's a baptism with which I must be baptized.
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And how great is my anguish until it is accomplished. Do you think that I have
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come to establish peace on the earth? No. I tell you but rather division. From now
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on a household of five will be divided. Three against two. Two against three. Father will
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be divided against son and son against father. Mother against daughter and daughter against
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mother. A mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law. A daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.
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Good news from the Lord.
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Sometimes good news doesn't sound good. And when we hear from prophets, that's when it doesn't
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sound good most of the time. In our world today, especially since the Enlightenment,
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those wonderful French people gave us the Enlightenment that has moved us into great
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scientific feats and all those kinds of things, but the Enlightenment is about the individual.
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And we've lost the sense of community. And that trickles down because when we think about sin and
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evil in the world, we generally tend to think about ourselves. How am I acting? How is it that
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I am viewed by God? How is my relationship with God? Am I being good enough? Will I get to heaven?
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Will God give me what I need to get through all of this? Will God forgive me? Which are all
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appropriate things to worry about. But scripturally, sin is much less individual and it is much more communal.
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And so when the prophets come, the prophets aren't so much railing against individual people.
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Sometimes they do, the king, but the king is a symbol, right? The king is the symbol of the whole country.
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And they are speaking something against the societal, this communal, societal way of being.
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Said, you've lost your way. That's what they keep saying. Now, Jeremiah wasn't thrown into the cistern
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because he was saying, king, you've got to be better. What he was addressing was the whole culture that had
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grown up in Jerusalem and in Judah. So Judah is kind of surrounded. You have the Assyrian empire in the north,
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who has conquered the northern kingdom, what we call Samaria, what we know of as Samaria.
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Would be Galilee in most places. And you have the Babylonians on the east and they are a rising empire and they and the
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Assyrians are at war with each other. And you have the Egyptians on the south, another big, huge, powerful kingdom.
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And on the west, you have the sea. So they're sort of boxed in. So what Judah starts to do, kingdom of Judah,
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they start to make all these political alliances. You know, and they're hoping that perhaps by sleight of hand,
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they can eke out another little bit. But what happens as they eke out another little bit of time,
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is that they give more of their soul to whoever it is they're trying to negotiate with.
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The Babylonians, the Assyrians, the Egyptians, maybe even the fish in the sea, who knows.
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So they end up in a spot that is so far away from what they were intended to be,
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that God sends prophets to try and bring them back.
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So Israel was intended to be a people who trusted in God, who trusted deeply in God,
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whether they had overlords or independents, whether they had famine or plenty.
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That's what God wanted. That was the whole idea. And they were to be assigned to the world of that.
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The seed, if you will, the little bit of leaven that would grow up and make everything better.
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But instead they turned into a political reality. And all of a sudden they had borders and cities with walls
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and they needed to protect things. So then the Assyrians come and they, you know,
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And then the Babylonians come and they surround Jerusalem.
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And then the Egyptians come and the Babylonians leave Jerusalem, go off to fight the Egyptians.
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And then a couple of years later, they come back and surround Jerusalem again.
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And in the midst of all of that is Jeremiah. And Jeremiah is saying to the people,
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Surrender. Now, how would you feel if I stood up here and said,
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You know how to deal with Russia? You know how to deal with China? Surrender.
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You'd say, what? What in the world are you asking?
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That's why they threw Jeremiah down that cistern.
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Because he was trying to say something to the people about their life of faith and their relationship to God.
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And it was heard politically. And so what you do in order to be faithful to who you are,
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Jeremiah says, is surrender. But the king is saying, we surrender, we lose everything.
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Prophet's words are really hard.
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You've all heard of Ben Salmon. Ben Salmon was the father of a priest.
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I actually knew him, Charlie Salmon, who was a priest for the Archdiocese of Denver.
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Ben Salmon was a conscientious objector during World War I.
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And as a result of that, because he refused to go to war,
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the result of that was disaster for his family.
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He couldn't get a job, getting imprisoned. He spent a bunch of years in, I think Leavenworth.
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And it was just, it was a terrible thing because he was too much of a threat.
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Now, Ben Salmon was not making a political statement.
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He was making a faith statement that was heard politically.
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Now, all of our faith statements actually do have a lot of political things that they,
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that kind of come along with it, right?
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So we have three volunteers here who come from all over the world.
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So we have one that comes to us from Rhode Island.
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But before she was in Rhode Island, she was in Nigeria and had to come here for difficult reasons.
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We have another person who is here from Denver.
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But before that, she was in Somalia, in Eritrea.
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I don't know why I keep saying Somalia, I keep saying that.
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In Eritrea, where she too had to escape from difficult things.
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And we have one who is here from Wisconsin, by way of Texas.
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Too exotic place to be in.
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So, come from all over the world and bring these very unique experiences of church from other parts of the world.
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And they come here to say something that is actually, in these days, quite prophetic.
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Now, they don't come here to be political spokespeople.
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They come here to serve the poor.
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They come here in the spirit of St. Vincent de Paul to say,
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the poor matter more than the jets.
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Not the New York jets, the ones that fly around in the sky.
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That the poor matter more than the country club.
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That the poor matter more than your retirement account.
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You know, we're gonna take up a second collection today for that.
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For the Steve's retirement account.
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Actually, for retired priests.
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I was thinking I'd come up here with a cane so that you don't feel sorry for me.
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But more important than that are the poor.
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More important than protecting our belongings.
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More important than protecting what we claim as ours.
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Our way of life.
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Our way of thinking.
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Our way of thinking.
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That's a very prophetic thing to say.
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You know, when we hear the prophet's voices, how do we react?
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You know, we can't just say, well, you know, I'm speaking against this stupid power that we have here.
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No, you're speaking against or you're living in a way that makes a comment on a culture.
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On a society, which is all of us.
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How much do I care for the poor?
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How much am I willing to give up so that we begin to move in a more just,
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in a more open, in a more faithful way?
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Because indeed, as a people, we too have lost our way.
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We too have kind of gotten off the road.
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Not as people of the United States, but as Christians.
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Because we have individualized holiness.
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Holiness is what I do.
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Holiness is what I do.
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It's how good I am.
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It's how good I pray.
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And that's not what Christianity is about.
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Christianity is about the us.
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I can't go to heaven without all of you.
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And that's the message that we have.
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That's the fire that Jesus wants to set on the earth.
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And that's also what brings about the division.
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That's also what brings about the baptism that Jesus will be baptized in.
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That's the challenge for us.
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First, to hear that word of the prophet inviting us to look at everything in a different way.
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To look at how I relate in a neighborhood, in a parish, in this country, in a different way.
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To begin to see everyone, most especially those who are poor.
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Those who are in need.
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Those who need something more.
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To see them as people.
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To see them as Christ.
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Not so that I can do something that makes me feel good.
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Yeah, I gave the poor this money.
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Isn't that wonderful?
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No, it's to change the rules.
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Why is this person hungry in the first place?
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How have we as a community failed to take care of this person?
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That's an even harder question to ask.
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But that's what the prophet asks us to do.
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Father Steve’s message challenges the comfortable Father Steve’s message challenges the comfortable and individualistic form of Christianity that has taken root in modern culture, particularly in the West. He reflects on Jesus’ startling words from Luke’s Gospel not as a call to violence, but as a demand for radical transformation — a fire that purifies and divides, because truth disrupts the status quo. Father Steve reminds us that the prophetic word, like that of Jeremiah, often confronts collective sin and societal complacency, not merely personal failings. In doing so, he calls us back to a communal faith rooted in justice, compassion for the poor, and a willingness to surrender self-interest for the sake of God's vision for humanity. Christianity, he insists, is not about individual holiness but about communal salvation — about all of us going to God together, or not at all.
In detail, Father Steve begins by reflecting on the Gospel of Luke where Jesus speaks of bringing fire and division rather than peace. These harsh words are unsettling, but Father Steve interprets them through the lens of prophetic tradition. Prophets, both ancient and modern, disturb the status quo not to stir chaos, but to awaken a people who have lost their way. He draws a parallel between Jesus' words and the mission of prophets like Jeremiah, whose call to surrender to Babylon was not political subversion but a spiritual plea for fidelity to God. Jeremiah's message was misunderstood and rejected because it called the people to relinquish control and trust utterly in God—a dangerous and offensive message in a world obsessed with security, power, and national identity.
Father Steve then critiques the Enlightenment’s emphasis on individualism, noting that while it brought scientific and intellectual progress, it also fractured the communal sense of belonging that is central to biblical spirituality. As a result, faith has become overly privatized. We ask, “Am I good? Will God forgive me?” instead of asking, “How have we, as a people, failed in justice and compassion?” This individualistic lens distorts the Christian understanding of sin, which is deeply communal in Scripture. The prophets didn’t only rebuke kings as individuals but condemned the whole society through its leaders, calling out systemic injustice, idolatry, and the abandonment of the vulnerable.
Father Steve illustrates this with the story of Ben Salmon, a conscientious objector during World War I. Salmon’s refusal to fight wasn’t a political act, but a deep act of faith. Nevertheless, his witness was interpreted politically and led to suffering for him and his family. This mirrors the fate of many prophets: their faith-based convictions threaten societal norms and are often perceived as political threats. Father Steve draws this into the present by honoring volunteers from different cultural backgrounds who have come to serve the poor. Their actions, though not political in intent, make a prophetic statement in a society that often values wealth, security, and comfort over human dignity, especially of the marginalized.
In this context, Father Steve reminds us that Catholic social teaching demands more than charity — it demands justice. It’s not enough to give to the poor out of surplus; we must ask why poverty exists in the first place. We must be willing to challenge the systems and structures that perpetuate inequality. True Christian discipleship is not about self-perfection or securing one's own salvation, but about building the Kingdom of God on earth — a kingdom rooted in solidarity, mercy, and justice. That’s the fire Jesus brings: a fire that threatens the comfortable but purifies the faithful.
Ultimately, Father Steve calls for a renewal of Christian identity rooted in community and shared responsibility. Holiness is not a private achievement but a communal journey. He challenges us to stop thinking in terms of “I” and begin thinking in terms of “we.” We cannot be Christian alone. We cannot go to God without one another. And that includes the poor, the refugee, the outcast, and the prophet who makes us uncomfortable. The division Jesus speaks of is the inevitable result of a Gospel that demands transformation. Will we resist it, or will we let the fire of God’s love burn away our illusions and lead us into new life — together?...
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{"task": "transcribe", "langua {"task": "transcribe", "language": "english", "duration": 937.3599853515625, "text": "The Lord be with you. And with your spirit. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to John. Glory to you, O Lord. Jesus said to his disciples, I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now. But when he comes, the Spirit of truth will guide you to all truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears and will declare to you the things that are coming. He will glorify me because he will take from what is mine and declare it to you. Everything that the Father has is mine. For this reason, I told you that he will take from what is mine and declare it to you. The Gospel of the Lord. The Feast of the Trinity is one of those where no one comes out after Mass and says, that's exactly what I needed to hear. It is a theological Sunday. It is very heavy. And it it can give us a glimpse into who we are called to be, because it reminds us when we say we are created in the image of God. That we are created in the image of a communal God. God is not one. God is three. Now, the cover argument, God is not three. God is one. God is both. We can't let go of either. And today, it's often too easy to say, well, we'll talk a little bit about the Father and a little bit about the Son and a little bit about the Holy Spirit. And when I can't figure out a way to end the homily, I'll just go in the name of the Father and I'll walk off. But today is not about that. Today is about that mystery, that whatever it is that makes them one. Because we diminish, that's the part of the Trinity we diminish constantly. When we say, oh, they are one, we tend to mean it in human terms. Oh, they're on the same side. They agree. They don't argue. They present a united front. No, it's deeper than that. People will say, how can God the Father have allowed Jesus to go through what was on the cross? They both went through it. All three of them went through it. The theology of the Eucharist, we don't use this language, but you do not receive the body of Christ. You receive the body of all three members of the Trinity. You can't do one without the other. Indivisible. We can't divide one part off from the other. It's a mystical union. It is a mystical oneness. Some of the saints, they may have gone a little too far the other way, but some of the saints said it's better to realize three facets of the same God. The three faces of God. It is a unity that we can't get our head around. One of the better images I've run across over the years and I've shared with you at least four times, probably on this Sunday every year, is the image of the grove of aspens in Kaliurag. In the 1980s, one of the largest groves in the world, the people come from all over to see the beautiful, you know, aspen groves. They found, as they got into better thermal imaging and things and being able to see into the ground without disturbing things, using some of the tools archaeologists use, that that grove is a single living organism. It is not a bunch of trees. It is one plant. You and I will never, ever go up there and see anything but a bunch of individual trees. No, they're all living next to each other, so we call them a grove. But we will never see the oneness. Just our eyes don't go there. Everything we experience, everything you and I know as a tree is singular, and a grove is a group. And the reality of that is it is the largest single living organism on the planet, is a grove of aspen trees in Kaliurag. It could be the wine festival, we don't know. But that is not only the image of the Trinity, but that is the image of humanity created in the image of a Trinity. Is that you and I are, when we say, oh, we're called to be one. Oh, we are one in Christ. And we all think it means we're supposed to behave well and not hurt one another. No, it means we are one at a level you and I cannot understand this side of the grave. It is the fundamental theology of Christianity. Every culture has some fundamental point of Christianity that is countercultural, and we will always struggle the most with it. And for us, it is the oneness, because in various religions, religions form the cultures and the cultures form the religions. In Far East Asia, the cultures and the religions are very sociological. The hero is always the perfectly polite gentleman or lady, someone who does not harm other. That is the hero of that culture. When you get into Southeast Asia, Buddhism, Hinduism, the hero is the guru, the person who, no matter how awful life gets around them, they can find peace, they can find century. That is the hero of their culture. In the West, it is the pioneer. It is the one who got on their own and do things on their own and strike out on their own and I'm going to conquer the world and I'm going to do it. We have, over every other culture, we have an inordinate amount of movies that are not about community. They're about Steven Seagal saving the world. And if he's not available, you know, Schwarzenegger will do it. If he's not available, you know, we want to raise up heroes who will be the ones who save everyone else. Because we, our ideology of heroism is individualism. And that's the intersection of our culture with the countercultural gospel, with what is countercultural. We will always struggle with that. Is what it means to know that no one got where they got on their own. No one, you know, well, I earned everything I have. Tell that to your parents who knew you when you were six months old. If you're still alive, you got something you didn't earn. You know, but we don't like it there because I'm the person who's going to go out and take care of everything. Very counter-Christian. And very counter-Trinity. We're so into the individuals. It's, many, many theologians talk, this is why God in Christianity became so masculine. Because if you want to go to a romance language like Spanish or the languages that have been talking this theology longer than English, we are interested in El Padre, El Hijo, the Son, Lo Spirito, the Spirit, and not that interested in La Trinidad. If you were to, well, which, are any of those, you know, God, Father, Son, do we think of those as male or female? People try to parse it out. But the original language is as individual, as three individuals, God is masculine. As one, God is feminine. It's, you know, now it's split exactly in half. It's how we are imaging God at the moment. Are we imaging three individuals? Are we imaging one unity? And in all the languages that came out of Latin and Greek, it was always Trinity that was feminine. So you have this sense that because we didn't focus on the unity, God becomes very masculine for us. But we want to ding into that unity today and say, so what does it mean to imagine? What is this oneness that is beyond anything we can imagine? Now, we can't get too lost in it. It's a mystery. They say ad nauseum, in the Catholic theology, mysteries are not things you solve. In our culture, a mystery is supposed to be solved at the end of the episode, the end of the season, where some of the more irritating shows will go on for maybe by the end of the series. If you ever want to engage Father Marty in conversation, bring up a mystery novel. Oh, he loves them. But those are mysteries that we start the mystery because we know it will get solved. Catholic mysteries will just bind you in deeper and deeper and deeper with the knowledge that you never solve it. We are not 2,000 years closer to solving the Trinity. We'll never get there. It's beyond, it is infinite. And I know your teachers didn't want you to know this, but your minds are finite. We do have limits, and God is infinite, and you cannot push the infinite into the finite. It just won't work. So why do it? Because there's always more. It's richer. It enriches us. And if we dig into our nature as created in the triune nature, this Trinity, this plural image, then we start to realize that we never find our humanity except in connection to others. We are never fully who we are isolated in the world. And we may be more comfortable there sometimes, but that's not who we are. My identity is what I've done in the world. It's already, I don't know if I've told you before, I used to tell the kids at school, what I've created is the parable of the peanut butter sandwich. I always say, any of the kids in the audience, any of you know how to make a peanut butter sandwich? So how do you make the peanut butter? How do you make the bread? How do you make the jelly? Oh, well, no, once thousands of people in the community get my ingredients on the table, I know how to make a peanut butter sandwich, and I can tell you about the peanut butter sandwich. We don't see how connected we are. We don't see that someone dumps something in an ocean around the world and 20 years later, there's a virus, and 30 years later, the price of eggs go up. We are connected. And this is the way that we lean into that. This is the feast of that connectedness of humanity. It's the feast, I always say, it's not God in our hearts, it's God between our hearts. That is this weekend. And so as we, it would be easiest, let's talk about the creating and the sustaining and the salvation aspects of God. Let's talk about what makes them one. At a level of mystery, we cannot get past. Our faith is more dependent, and there are theologians, if they were passed away, their heads might blow up, to put it this way. Our faith is often much more dependent on our imagination than our intellect. Because our intellect is limited and our imagination is the closest we get to infinite. That's where we lean in. And Trinity, what a wonderful imagining. And Gregory of Nyssa, who came up with the idea, almost simultaneously with Gregory of Nyssa, which was great for theologians doing papers to have both of them named Gregory. But he always said, this is our image, this is the triune God we've come to know, but we shouldn't think that's the end of it. God is three and one. Well, that's as much as you and I get covered. But that doesn't describe it all either. That describes what we can end. So we ask God to make us a people who dig into the mystery, because what it will do for us is it will create a better community. How? 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The Lord WEBVTT
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The Lord be with you. And with your spirit. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to John. Glory to you, O Lord.
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Jesus said to his disciples, I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now.
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But when he comes, the Spirit of truth will guide you to all truth.
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He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears and will declare to you the things that are coming.
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He will glorify me because he will take from what is mine and declare it to you.
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Everything that the Father has is mine. For this reason, I told you that he will take from what is mine and declare it to you.
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The Gospel of the Lord.
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The Feast of the Trinity is one of those where no one comes out after Mass and says, that's exactly what I needed to hear.
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It is a theological Sunday. It is very heavy.
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And it it can give us a glimpse into who we are called to be, because it reminds us when we say we are created in the image of God.
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That we are created in the image of a communal God. God is not one. God is three.
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Now, the cover argument, God is not three. God is one. God is both. We can't let go of either.
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And today, it's often too easy to say, well, we'll talk a little bit about the Father and a little bit about the Son and a little bit about the Holy Spirit.
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And when I can't figure out a way to end the homily, I'll just go in the name of the Father and I'll walk off.
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But today is not about that. Today is about that mystery, that whatever it is that makes them one.
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Because we diminish, that's the part of the Trinity we diminish constantly.
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When we say, oh, they are one, we tend to mean it in human terms. Oh, they're on the same side.
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They agree. They don't argue.
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They present a united front.
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No, it's deeper than that.
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People will say, how can God the Father have allowed Jesus to go through what was on the cross?
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They both went through it. All three of them went through it.
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The theology of the Eucharist, we don't use this language, but you do not receive the body of Christ.
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You receive the body of all three members of the Trinity.
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You can't do one without the other. Indivisible.
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We can't divide one part off from the other.
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It's a mystical union. It is a mystical oneness.
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Some of the saints, they may have gone a little too far the other way,
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but some of the saints said it's better to realize three facets of the same God.
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The three faces of God.
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It is a unity that we can't get our head around.
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One of the better images I've run across over the years and I've shared with you
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at least four times, probably on this Sunday every year,
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is the image of the grove of aspens in Kaliurag.
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In the 1980s, one of the largest groves in the world,
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the people come from all over to see the beautiful, you know, aspen groves.
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They found, as they got into better thermal imaging and things
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and being able to see into the ground without disturbing things,
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using some of the tools archaeologists use,
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that that grove is a single living organism.
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It is not a bunch of trees. It is one plant.
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You and I will never, ever go up there and see anything but a bunch of individual trees.
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No, they're all living next to each other, so we call them a grove.
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But we will never see the oneness.
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Just our eyes don't go there.
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Everything we experience, everything you and I know as a tree is singular,
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and a grove is a group.
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And the reality of that is it is the largest single living organism on the planet,
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is a grove of aspen trees in Kaliurag.
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It could be the wine festival, we don't know.
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But that is not only the image of the Trinity,
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but that is the image of humanity created in the image of a Trinity.
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Is that you and I are, when we say, oh, we're called to be one.
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Oh, we are one in Christ.
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And we all think it means we're supposed to behave well and not hurt one another.
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No, it means we are one at a level you and I cannot understand this side of the grave.
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It is the fundamental theology of Christianity.
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Every culture has some fundamental point of Christianity that is countercultural,
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and we will always struggle the most with it.
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And for us, it is the oneness, because in various religions,
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religions form the cultures and the cultures form the religions.
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In Far East Asia, the cultures and the religions are very sociological.
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The hero is always the perfectly polite gentleman or lady,
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someone who does not harm other.
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That is the hero of that culture.
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When you get into Southeast Asia, Buddhism, Hinduism, the hero is the guru,
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the person who, no matter how awful life gets around them,
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they can find peace, they can find century.
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That is the hero of their culture.
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In the West, it is the pioneer.
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It is the one who got on their own and do things on their own
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and strike out on their own and I'm going to conquer the world and I'm going to do it.
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We have, over every other culture,
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we have an inordinate amount of movies that are not about community.
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They're about Steven Seagal saving the world.
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And if he's not available, you know, Schwarzenegger will do it.
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If he's not available, you know, we want to raise up heroes
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who will be the ones who save everyone else.
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Because we, our ideology of heroism is individualism.
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And that's the intersection of our culture with the countercultural gospel,
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with what is countercultural.
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We will always struggle with that.
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Is what it means to know that no one got where they got on their own.
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No one, you know, well, I earned everything I have.
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Tell that to your parents who knew you when you were six months old.
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If you're still alive, you got something you didn't earn.
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You know, but we don't like it there because I'm the person
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who's going to go out and take care of everything.
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Very counter-Christian.
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And very counter-Trinity.
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We're so into the individuals.
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It's, many, many theologians talk,
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this is why God in Christianity became so masculine.
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Because if you want to go to a romance language like Spanish
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or the languages that have been talking this theology longer than English,
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we are interested in El Padre, El Hijo, the Son,
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Lo Spirito, the Spirit, and not that interested in La Trinidad.
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If you were to, well, which, are any of those, you know, God, Father, Son,
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do we think of those as male or female?
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People try to parse it out.
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But the original language is as individual, as three individuals,
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God is masculine.
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As one, God is feminine.
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It's, you know, now it's split exactly in half.
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It's how we are imaging God at the moment.
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Are we imaging three individuals?
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Are we imaging one unity?
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And in all the languages that came out of Latin and Greek,
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it was always Trinity that was feminine.
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So you have this sense that because we didn't focus on the unity,
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God becomes very masculine for us.
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But we want to ding into that unity today and say,
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so what does it mean to imagine?
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What is this oneness that is beyond anything we can imagine?
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Now, we can't get too lost in it.
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It's a mystery.
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They say ad nauseum, in the Catholic theology,
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mysteries are not things you solve.
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In our culture, a mystery is supposed to be solved
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at the end of the episode, the end of the season,
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where some of the more irritating shows will go on
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for maybe by the end of the series.
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If you ever want to engage Father Marty in conversation,
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bring up a mystery novel.
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Oh, he loves them.
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But those are mysteries that we start the mystery
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because we know it will get solved.
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Catholic mysteries will just bind you in deeper and deeper
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and deeper with the knowledge that you never solve it.
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We are not 2,000 years closer to solving the Trinity.
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We'll never get there.
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It's beyond, it is infinite.
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And I know your teachers didn't want you to know this,
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but your minds are finite.
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We do have limits, and God is infinite,
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and you cannot push the infinite into the finite.
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It just won't work.
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So why do it?
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Because there's always more.
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It's richer.
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It enriches us.
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And if we dig into our nature as created in the triune nature,
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this Trinity, this plural image,
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then we start to realize that we never find our humanity
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except in connection to others.
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We are never fully who we are isolated in the world.
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And we may be more comfortable there sometimes,
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but that's not who we are.
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My identity is what I've done in the world.
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It's already, I don't know if I've told you before,
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I used to tell the kids at school,
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what I've created is the parable of the peanut butter sandwich.
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I always say, any of the kids in the audience,
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any of you know how to make a peanut butter sandwich?
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So how do you make the peanut butter?
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How do you make the bread?
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How do you make the jelly?
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Oh, well, no, once thousands of people in the community
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get my ingredients on the table,
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I know how to make a peanut butter sandwich,
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and I can tell you about the peanut butter sandwich.
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We don't see how connected we are.
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We don't see that someone dumps something in an ocean around the world
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and 20 years later, there's a virus,
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and 30 years later, the price of eggs go up.
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We are connected.
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And this is the way that we lean into that.
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This is the feast of that connectedness of humanity.
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It's the feast, I always say, it's not God in our hearts,
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it's God between our hearts.
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That is this weekend.
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And so as we, it would be easiest,
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let's talk about the creating and the sustaining
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and the salvation aspects of God.
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Let's talk about what makes them one.
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At a level of mystery, we cannot get past.
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Our faith is more dependent,
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and there are theologians,
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if they were passed away, their heads might blow up,
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to put it this way.
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Our faith is often much more dependent on our imagination
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than our intellect.
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Because our intellect is limited
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and our imagination is the closest we get to infinite.
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That's where we lean in.
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And Trinity, what a wonderful imagining.
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And Gregory of Nyssa, who came up with the idea,
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almost simultaneously with Gregory of Nyssa,
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which was great for theologians doing papers
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to have both of them named Gregory.
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But he always said, this is our image,
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this is the triune God we've come to know,
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but we shouldn't think that's the end of it.
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God is three and one.
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Well, that's as much as you and I get covered.
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But that doesn't describe it all either.
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That describes what we can end.
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So we ask God to make us a people who dig into the mystery,
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because what it will do for us
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is it will create a better community.
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How?
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Standing before the mystery of God,
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if you understand what it means for it to be mystery,
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you become humble.
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I've always said when I do interfaith dialogue
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that we are always gentle with one another.
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I've worked with rabbis and imams
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and people of all flavors of Christianity
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and Buddhist nuns, and we get together
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and we all recognize.
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Each one of us wants to say,
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my ridiculously insufficient vision of the Almighty
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is better than your ridiculously insufficient vision of me.
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Because as Cardinal Stafford used to say,
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all human visions of the Almighty
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are ridiculously insufficient.
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We'll never get there.
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But knowing that allows us to be humble enough
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to listen to one another and to be enriched.
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I have always, I will quote until the end of time,
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Rabbi Brian Field in that group
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said to me several years ago,
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you know, as a Catholic priest coming from a rabbi,
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he'd say, I have to tell you,
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90% of the time you and I have identical theology.
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And 10% of the time you're interesting.
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Not a horror of disagreement.
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Oh, oh good, I'm not alone in the world.
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I think there are people,
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and it's sort of a small way of living life,
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is they are waiting for a world
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that all agrees with them.
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What a small way to live.
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I used to always say,
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if the whole church could agree with me,
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we'd probably shut down by Thursday.
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I'd mess it up.
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It is that mystery, our connection that allows us
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the humility to deepen the bonds,
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to deepen the oneness.
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And if we do that,
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not only do we slowly manifest better
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the body of Christ in the world,
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but through our behavior together,
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we can manifest the kingdom of God.
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Father Pat’s message on the Feast of the Trinity i Father Pat’s message on the Feast of the Trinity invites us into the profound mystery of God's nature as a communion of persons—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—and challenges us to see ourselves, as beings created in God's image, as fundamentally communal and interconnected. He emphasizes that the mystery of the Trinity is not a puzzle to be solved, but a divine reality to be entered into, one that reveals both the nature of God and the calling of humanity. In a culture that prizes individualism, Father Pat calls us to embrace the countercultural truth of Christian unity: we are not isolated beings but deeply interwoven, reflections of a God who is both Three and One. This mystery, though beyond our intellect, is accessible through humility, imagination, and relational living.
Theologically, Father Pat draws from the Gospel of John, where Jesus promises the coming of the Spirit of truth who will guide the disciples into deeper understanding. The Spirit reveals the unity of purpose and being between Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—each distinct, yet indivisibly one. Father Pat insists that the mystery of their oneness defies simplistic analogies or explanations. It is not about mere agreement or shared mission, as humans might define unity, but about an inseparable communion of essence. This divine mystery is not meant to be dissected but contemplated, and in doing so, it transforms how we understand our humanity.
Created in the image of the Triune God, we are not merely individuals but part of a greater whole. Father Pat uses the image of the aspen grove in Colorado—a massive underground root system manifesting as countless individual trees—to illustrate this hidden unity. While the eye sees separate trees, the reality is one living organism. Likewise, we appear as separate individuals, but at a deeper level, we share a divine interconnectedness. This oneness is not simply about mutual respect or kindness; it's about a shared being that can only be fully realized in relational love, self-gift, and community.
Father Pat contrasts this theological vision with dominant cultural narratives. In Western society, the hero is the lone pioneer, the self-made individual who conquers adversity alone. This cultural idolization of individualism clashes with the Gospel, which proclaims that no one thrives—or is even fully themselves—apart from others. Even our most basic actions and identities are communal: no one makes a peanut butter sandwich in isolation, and no one achieves anything entirely by themselves. Our dependence on one another is not a weakness but a reflection of the divine nature.
The failure to recognize this divine communion in ourselves has consequences. When we focus on the individual persons of the Trinity—Father, Son, and Spirit—we often masculinize God because of linguistic and cultural patterns. But the unity of the Trinity, “La Trinidad” in Latin-based languages, is feminine. This reminds us that when we ignore the oneness of God, we also distort the divine image. The mystery of the Trinity calls us to balance our understanding: God is not just three persons, but one God, and we cannot grasp one aspect without the other.
Mystery, in Catholic theology, is not something to be solved but something that draws us deeper into God. Unlike a mystery novel that ends with a resolution, divine mysteries open wider and deeper the more we enter them. The Trinity, therefore, is not a theological problem to resolve but a spiritual truth that humbles, stretches, and transforms us. To ponder the Trinity is to be reminded of our limits as finite beings and the richness of God's infinite nature. This humility is essential for authentic community. Recognizing that none of us has a complete vision of God allows us to listen, learn, and grow together.
This humility fosters interfaith dialogue and mutual enrichment. Father Pat shares his experience of engaging with religious leaders of different traditions, where the shared recognition of mystery leads not to division but to deeper unity. The acknowledgment that “my vision of the Almighty is insufficient” creates space for grace, dialogue, and a richer understanding of God. It also dismantles the illusion that consensus is the goal of spirituality. Instead, communion—real, messy, mysterious, loving communion—is the goal.
Ultimately, the Feast of the Trinity is not about theological precision but about transformation. It is an invitation to live differently: to seek unity not through uniformity but through mystery, humility, and love. It is a call to embody the divine communion we profess, not by retreating into individualism, but by leaning into our interconnectedness. In doing so, we not only reflect the image of the Triune God more faithfully but also begin to manifest the Kingdom of God in the world—one act of communal love at a time....
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{"task": "transcribe", "langua {"task": "transcribe", "language": "english", "duration": 955.27001953125, "text": "The Lord be with you. And with your spirit. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Luke. Glory to you, O Lord. There was a scholar of the law who stood up to test Jesus and said, Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life? Jesus said, What is written in the law? How do you read it? He said in reply, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your being, with all your strength, and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself. He replied to him, You have answered correctly. Do this and you will live. But because he wished to justify himself, he said to Jesus, And who is my neighbor? Jesus replied, A man fell victim to robbers as he went from Jerusalem to Jericho. They stripped and beat him and went off, leaving him half dead. A priest happened to be going down that road, but when he saw him, he passed by on the opposite side. Likewise, a Levite came to the place and when he saw him, he passed on the opposite side. But a Samaritan traveler who came upon him was moved with compassion at the site and approached the victim, poured oil and wine over his wounds and bandaged them. Then he lifted him up on his own animal, took him to an inn and cared for him. The next day he took out two silver coins and gave them to the innkeeper, with the instructions, Take care of him. If you spend more than what I have given you, I shall repay you on my way back. Which of these three, in your opinion, was neighbor to the robber's victim? He answered, The one who treated him with mercy. Jesus said to him, Go and do likewise. The Gospel of the Lord. Praise to you, Lord Jesus Christ. Today's synagogue gospel is a little trickier to give credit for. It's such a common, even if we can't think the whole story. The phrase, a good Samaritan has made its way into our culture, even in secular circles. People know what you mean when you say a good Samaritan. You say Samaritan, they don't have a clue what you mean. You're a good Samaritan, they know. But it takes on different layers in this culture. And one of the things that we should know is, when Jesus says to him, and it's an interesting question, the man says, What must I do to inherit eternal life? Now Jesus, as he always does, being somewhat Buddhist, I think, always answers a question with another question. He says, What is written in the law? How do you read it? And we don't understand that these scholars of the law, these, you know, the scribes, even the Pharisees, it wasn't just about could they quote scripture, but could they interpret it? And there was an art to interpretation very different from nowadays. They would rarely interpret with events from their own time or their life. Jesus would do that, and they caught off guard and say, He doesn't talk like anyone else. He's bringing in stuff from life. What they would often do is quote the law, and then they would quote kind of a path through all of their favorite rabbinical commentaries of the law. But they didn't use a lot of their own thought. Be like someone who got up and says today, Well, here's the scripture now. Augustine would say this, and Benedict would say this, but they don't really ever put any of their own stuff into it. That's not how they were trained. So first he quotes scripture right out of Deuteronomy 6. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your being, with all your strength, and with all your mind. Now, the next line is not in that. And as a matter of fact, in other gospel tellings of this story, Jesus synopses it there. That's the most important command. And the second is life that you shall. You shall treat your neighbor as yourself. He's adding to it. So this guy is giving us the scripture, and he's actually kind of quoting out of Medi Camelio, maybe Hillel, some of the well-known rabbis at that time who had this same thought. When Jesus says the second is like it, he's actually quoting previous rabbis. So it's all part of this history. And so Jesus basically says to him, okay, you and I are of the same rabbinate tradition. Great. But the guy is so good at the law, he just isn't good at understanding the scripture. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, with all your being. You can't really believe that, have your next question be, yeah, but how much do I have to actually do? All your heart, all your soul. Yeah, but not on Tuesday, sure. All your heart. He's just given this answer that Jesus says, that's the answer, and he goes, really, great. And let's walk it back a little. You have to love your neighbor as yourself. Okay, but like maybe 10 neighbors tops. Who do I have to treat as my neighbor? Who's really my neighbor? And you know, I mean, is it because many people would say your neighbor is only your next-door neighbor, so you're down to two. Who would forget? How far do we want to walk it back? I think I said this just last week in Muhammad, but this is what I get in confession often is, Father, is this a sin? And I know two things. Immediately I know two things. One, the answer is yes. Because they wouldn't ask him what. No one walks in and says, Father, I just saved someone's life. Is that a sin? No, they've done something that they know they probably shouldn't have done. And the second thing I know is that they're hoping I'm going to be able to say, well, that was bad. You got right up to the line, but not right up to the throat. What they're asking is, how bad can I be and still be okay? And the problem is that's just not part of the dynamic of faith and love and grace. When you look at the word love, it tends to ask the most of us, not the minimum. If you are in the throes of falling in love with someone, you usually don't sit down before that first date and go, okay, Lord, what's the minimum time I can spend with this person and still have them like me? If that's your thought, you're not in love. You need to find someone else. More importantly, they need to find someone else. What's the minimum I can give to this relationship and have it work? You know, that should make the other person want to run the other way as fast as they can. And so when we approach our faith, we can't say, you know, I love God, I love God with my whole heart. What's the minimum I have to give? Then those are just words. They don't really mean that we're trying to love God with our whole heart, our whole mind. So, you know, who is deserving of my compassion? Well, I'll first get rid of the word deserve. If you're doling out your compassion for who deserves it and not, that's not compassion. That's something else. It's, you know, quid pro quo. I suppose if I'm compassionate only to people I think deserve it, that's probably called networking. Seeing who I need to be connected to to get through this better. But it's not compassion. Compassion means to suffer it. I think it's the hardest part of the word because most of us, we love to help people if we can fix them. But to be with them when we can't. Or horror of horrors, discover that they're not the one that needs fixing. I am here to fix all of you. And as they say about other things, let it begin with me. We're not here to fix one another. That's God's job. But we're here to be with one another while we try to do things better. And to limit that with, what would I absolutely have to do and still get into heaven, is already a clear indication. Can you imagine if heaven is eternity with getting to spend eternity with the people who knew how to work the system? Been there, done that. And that's called Denver, Colorado. We know what it is to be with people who know how to work with the system. I was in an interesting class in rural where we had one of the professors say, you know, if we're not careful, confession, reconciliation, penance, whatever they were calling it that year, that sacrament, instead of being a sacrament of healing, becomes a sacrament of substitution. Instead of getting better, I just make sure I made it to confession. I do the same thing week after week. And as long as I can get it done by Friday, I'm good. As long as I can go to session on Saturday. If confession becomes what I do instead of digging my heels in and changing my life, it undoes us. No, faith isn't what we use while we don't work in ourselves. Now, you'll never get it perfect. I've told you before, you know, my goal every year is not to make fewer mistakes, just to make different ones. Make some different mistakes. Are you still caught in the same, you know, do I just do the same thing every week and show up to confession and say, I made it to confession, be good. Nothing is a substitute for work in the world. We had the Feast of Saint Benedict this week, and one of my favorite sayings of his is, you know, that our prayer has to be accompanied by good work because we have to lift our hearts to God with our hands. You know, we have to be doing something in our lives, which we know this in relationships. Somebody can say, you know, my family is the most important thing in the world to me, but if I don't have time for them, then they know that's just not true. You know, and it doesn't mean, it doesn't mean that there aren't other things in life that are more urgent. The balance between urgent and important is one of the hardest things we do in life. There's a lot of things that are important. You know, my prayer life is important. I don't have to get it done by 5 p.m. tonight or I'm done for. It doesn't have that urgency, and I am someone who loves deadlines. You tell me it has to be done by noon, and I'll get it done. If you tell me that this book must be returned to the library sometime, it will be there forever. I work better with deadlines, and so, you know, I tend to chase things that are urgent over things that are important. Relationships are important. Hopefully the relationship is not as urgent. Certainly, you know, we hope your spouse is more understanding and flexible than your boss, even though sometimes they also take on that role. You know, it's, you know, we, our families, our friends, our relationships are more flexible, but that doesn't mean that we procrastinate and never work on them. The number of people who have a lot of friends and go through life lonely. They say, I got friends, but I just don't make time for them. Do we love the Lord with our whole heart? What I love about this neighbor thing is really, if you were following this logically, the question would not be which one of them was neighbor to the guy who's been robbed, because the setup for it was, no, I'm not that old. Well, you're neighbor. The question is, which one of them considered the robber a neighbor, not who the robber considered. It's the other way around. And when you say, so who is my neighbor? Who you choose to help. No one says to God, who do I love in the world? God says everyone. Yeah, but I'm like, who really? We're thinking God is going to give you a set of people. These are your neighbors. Take care of it. God is saying, go pick neighbors. Who are my neighbors? That's your choice. And you can either create a small neighborhood or a large neighborhood. And people who are caught up in the need for safety above all things, go choose a small neighborhood. 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The Lord WEBVTT
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The Lord be with you. And with your spirit. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Luke. Glory to you, O Lord.
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There was a scholar of the law who stood up to test Jesus and said,
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Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?
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Jesus said, What is written in the law? How do you read it?
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He said in reply, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart,
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with all your being, with all your strength, and with all your mind,
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and your neighbor as yourself.
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He replied to him, You have answered correctly. Do this and you will live.
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But because he wished to justify himself, he said to Jesus, And who is my neighbor?
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Jesus replied, A man fell victim to robbers as he went from Jerusalem to Jericho.
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They stripped and beat him and went off, leaving him half dead.
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A priest happened to be going down that road, but when he saw him, he passed by on the opposite side.
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Likewise, a Levite came to the place and when he saw him, he passed on the opposite side.
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But a Samaritan traveler who came upon him was moved with compassion at the site
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and approached the victim, poured oil and wine over his wounds and bandaged them.
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Then he lifted him up on his own animal, took him to an inn and cared for him.
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The next day he took out two silver coins and gave them to the innkeeper,
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with the instructions, Take care of him.
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If you spend more than what I have given you, I shall repay you on my way back.
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Which of these three, in your opinion, was neighbor to the robber's victim?
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He answered, The one who treated him with mercy.
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Jesus said to him, Go and do likewise.
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The Gospel of the Lord.
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Praise to you, Lord Jesus Christ.
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Today's synagogue gospel is a little trickier to give credit for.
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It's such a common, even if we can't think the whole story.
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The phrase, a good Samaritan has made its way into our culture, even in secular circles.
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People know what you mean when you say a good Samaritan.
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You say Samaritan, they don't have a clue what you mean.
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You're a good Samaritan, they know.
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But it takes on different layers in this culture.
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And one of the things that we should know is,
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when Jesus says to him, and it's an interesting question,
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the man says, What must I do to inherit eternal life?
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Now Jesus, as he always does, being somewhat Buddhist, I think,
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always answers a question with another question.
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He says, What is written in the law?
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How do you read it?
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And we don't understand that these scholars of the law,
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these, you know, the scribes, even the Pharisees,
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it wasn't just about could they quote scripture, but could they interpret it?
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And there was an art to interpretation very different from nowadays.
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They would rarely interpret with events from their own time or their life.
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Jesus would do that, and they caught off guard and say,
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He doesn't talk like anyone else.
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He's bringing in stuff from life.
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What they would often do is quote the law,
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and then they would quote kind of a path
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through all of their favorite rabbinical commentaries of the law.
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But they didn't use a lot of their own thought.
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Be like someone who got up and says today,
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Well, here's the scripture now.
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Augustine would say this, and Benedict would say this,
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but they don't really ever put any of their own stuff into it.
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That's not how they were trained.
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So first he quotes scripture right out of Deuteronomy 6.
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You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart,
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with all your being, with all your strength, and with all your mind.
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Now, the next line is not in that.
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And as a matter of fact, in other gospel tellings of this story,
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Jesus synopses it there.
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That's the most important command.
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And the second is life that you shall.
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You shall treat your neighbor as yourself.
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He's adding to it.
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So this guy is giving us the scripture,
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and he's actually kind of quoting out of Medi Camelio,
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maybe Hillel, some of the well-known rabbis at that time
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who had this same thought.
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When Jesus says the second is like it,
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he's actually quoting previous rabbis.
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So it's all part of this history.
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And so Jesus basically says to him,
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okay, you and I are of the same rabbinate tradition.
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Great.
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But the guy is so good at the law,
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he just isn't good at understanding the scripture.
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You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart,
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with all your soul, with all your mind, with all your being.
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You can't really believe that, have your next question be,
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yeah, but how much do I have to actually do?
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All your heart, all your soul.
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Yeah, but not on Tuesday, sure.
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All your heart.
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He's just given this answer that Jesus says,
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that's the answer, and he goes, really, great.
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And let's walk it back a little.
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You have to love your neighbor as yourself.
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Okay, but like maybe 10 neighbors tops.
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Who do I have to treat as my neighbor?
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Who's really my neighbor?
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And you know, I mean, is it because many people would say
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your neighbor is only your next-door neighbor,
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so you're down to two.
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Who would forget?
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How far do we want to walk it back?
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I think I said this just last week in Muhammad,
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but this is what I get in confession often is,
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Father, is this a sin?
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And I know two things.
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Immediately I know two things.
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One, the answer is yes.
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Because they wouldn't ask him what.
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No one walks in and says,
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Father, I just saved someone's life.
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Is that a sin?
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No, they've done something that they know
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they probably shouldn't have done.
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And the second thing I know is that they're hoping
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I'm going to be able to say, well, that was bad.
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You got right up to the line, but not right up to the throat.
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What they're asking is, how bad can I be and still be okay?
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And the problem is that's just not part
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of the dynamic of faith and love and grace.
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When you look at the word love,
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it tends to ask the most of us, not the minimum.
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If you are in the throes of falling in love with someone,
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you usually don't sit down before that first date
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and go, okay, Lord, what's the minimum time
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I can spend with this person and still have them like me?
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If that's your thought, you're not in love.
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You need to find someone else.
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More importantly, they need to find someone else.
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What's the minimum I can give to this relationship
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and have it work?
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You know, that should make the other person
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want to run the other way as fast as they can.
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And so when we approach our faith, we can't say,
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you know, I love God, I love God with my whole heart.
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What's the minimum I have to give?
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Then those are just words.
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They don't really mean that we're trying to love God
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with our whole heart, our whole mind.
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So, you know, who is deserving of my compassion?
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Well, I'll first get rid of the word deserve.
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If you're doling out your compassion
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for who deserves it and not, that's not compassion.
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That's something else.
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It's, you know, quid pro quo.
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I suppose if I'm compassionate only to people
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I think deserve it, that's probably called networking.
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Seeing who I need to be connected to
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to get through this better.
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But it's not compassion.
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Compassion means to suffer it.
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I think it's the hardest part of the word
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because most of us, we love to help people
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if we can fix them.
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But to be with them when we can't.
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Or horror of horrors,
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discover that they're not the one that needs fixing.
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I am here to fix all of you.
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And as they say about other things, let it begin with me.
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We're not here to fix one another.
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That's God's job.
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But we're here to be with one another
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while we try to do things better.
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And to limit that with,
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what would I absolutely have to do
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and still get into heaven,
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is already a clear indication.
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Can you imagine if heaven is eternity
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with getting to spend eternity
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with the people who knew how to work the system?
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Been there, done that.
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And that's called Denver, Colorado.
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We know what it is to be with people
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who know how to work with the system.
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I was in an interesting class in rural
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where we had one of the professors say,
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you know, if we're not careful,
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confession, reconciliation, penance,
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whatever they were calling it that year,
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that sacrament, instead of being a sacrament of healing,
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becomes a sacrament of substitution.
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Instead of getting better,
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I just make sure I made it to confession.
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I do the same thing week after week.
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And as long as I can get it done by Friday, I'm good.
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As long as I can go to session on Saturday.
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If confession becomes what I do
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instead of digging my heels in and changing my life,
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it undoes us.
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No, faith isn't what we use while we don't work in ourselves.
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Now, you'll never get it perfect.
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I've told you before, you know, my goal every year
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is not to make fewer mistakes, just to make different ones.
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Make some different mistakes.
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Are you still caught in the same,
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you know, do I just do the same thing every week
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and show up to confession and say,
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I made it to confession, be good.
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Nothing is a substitute for work in the world.
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We had the Feast of Saint Benedict this week,
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and one of my favorite sayings of his is, you know,
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that our prayer has to be accompanied by good work
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because we have to lift our hearts to God with our hands.
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You know, we have to be doing something in our lives,
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which we know this in relationships.
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Somebody can say, you know,
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my family is the most important thing in the world to me,
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but if I don't have time for them,
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then they know that's just not true.
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You know, and it doesn't mean,
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it doesn't mean that there aren't other things in life
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that are more urgent.
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The balance between urgent and important
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is one of the hardest things we do in life.
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There's a lot of things that are important.
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You know, my prayer life is important.
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I don't have to get it done by 5 p.m. tonight
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or I'm done for.
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It doesn't have that urgency,
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and I am someone who loves deadlines.
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You tell me it has to be done by noon,
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and I'll get it done.
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If you tell me that this book
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must be returned to the library sometime,
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it will be there forever.
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I work better with deadlines,
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and so, you know, I tend to chase things that are urgent
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over things that are important.
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Relationships are important.
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Hopefully the relationship is not as urgent.
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Certainly, you know, we hope your spouse
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is more understanding and flexible than your boss,
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even though sometimes they also take on that role.
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You know, it's, you know,
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we, our families, our friends,
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our relationships are more flexible,
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but that doesn't mean that we procrastinate
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and never work on them.
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The number of people who have a lot of friends
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and go through life lonely.
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They say, I got friends,
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but I just don't make time for them.
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Do we love the Lord with our whole heart?
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What I love about this neighbor thing
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is really, if you were following this logically,
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the question would not be
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which one of them was neighbor
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to the guy who's been robbed,
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because the setup for it was,
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no, I'm not that old.
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Well, you're neighbor.
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The question is,
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which one of them considered the robber a neighbor,
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not who the robber considered.
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It's the other way around.
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And when you say, so who is my neighbor?
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Who you choose to help.
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No one says to God,
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who do I love in the world?
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God says everyone.
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Yeah, but I'm like, who really?
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We're thinking God is going to give you a set of people.
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These are your neighbors.
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Take care of it.
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God is saying, go pick neighbors.
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Who are my neighbors?
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That's your choice.
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And you can either create a small neighborhood
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or a large neighborhood.
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And people who are caught up in the need
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for safety above all things,
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go choose a small neighborhood.
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And God calls us out of that.
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God asks us, you tell me.
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I mean, we spend our whole life,
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who are we willing to help?
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I often like to think that
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if there is a final judgment,
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if there's a final test,
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it will be this one.
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That when we hit,
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and I'm big on believing that heaven
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is not a gated community,
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but for the sake of the analogy,
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if you arrive at the gates of heaven,
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what if it's God who asks us the question,
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so who were your neighbors?
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How many were you willing to have?
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Who were your neighbors?
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And it's the breadth and midth
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of that group of neighbors
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that is our grace.
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We're constantly in that sense of,
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well, who do I really have to help?
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Who needs help?
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How much do I really have to love someone
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to be in love?
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It's a not a says question.
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God says, if you're in this,
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you'll be in it all.
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And those irritating people
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who are really in this for the whole thing,
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will try to drag the best of us
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into that charity stuff, too.
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Does Ann Zimmer care?
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She's our director of social.
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It's that thing, if you're in,
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you're not only in, you're excited,
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you want other people to know about it.
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Whenever we ask the question,
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what's the least I have to do,
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we walk off the path.
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We ask God to make us a people
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who are in love with God.
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And who know that the only way
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to express that love is to care
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for God's children.
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Who is my neighbor?
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God's answer is, who are my children?
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Father Pat’s message centers on the essential natu Father Pat’s message centers on the essential nature of love—love of God and love of neighbor—as the heart of Christian life. He challenges the tendency to approach faith with a minimalist mindset, asking, “What’s the least I must do to be saved?” Instead, Father Pat emphasizes that true discipleship calls us to give fully—heart, mind, soul, and strength—without calculating limits. Using the parable of the Good Samaritan, he illustrates that love and compassion are not about categories or boundaries but about the willingness to act with mercy toward anyone in need. Father Pat ultimately reminds us that our relationship with God is most authentically expressed through the way we treat others, especially the marginalized, and that the measure of our faith is not how little we can do to “get by,” but how much we are willing to give out of love.
In his reflection on the Gospel of Luke, Father Pat unpacks the deeper spiritual implications of the parable of the Good Samaritan and the dialogue that precedes it. The scholar's opening question—“What must I do to inherit eternal life?”—is met by Jesus not with a direct answer, but with a question in return, highlighting Jesus' consistent method of engaging the heart, not just the intellect. Jesus affirms the scholar’s answer: love God with all your being and love your neighbor as yourself. Yet the scholar, seeking to justify himself, asks, “And who is my neighbor?” revealing that he is still operating from a framework of limits, boundaries, and minimal obligations.
Father Pat emphasizes that the scholar's question betrays a transactional mindset: how little love or compassion can I show and still be justified? This same mindset, he notes, is common in confessions where people ask, “Is this a sin?”—often hoping for a loophole rather than transformation. This approach reduces faith to a set of rules or thresholds rather than a living relationship of love and grace.
Drawing from the parable, Father Pat points out that it wasn't the religious figures—the priest or the Levite—who acted with mercy, but the Samaritan, someone considered an outsider and even an enemy by Jewish standards. The Samaritan’s compassion transcended social and religious boundaries. He didn’t just help; he entered into the man’s suffering, treated his wounds, transported him, paid for his care, and promised to return. This is the heart of compassion: not just fixing someone, but being with them in their pain, even when there's no benefit or reciprocal reward.
Father Pat then shifts to a critique of how we often use religious practices, like confession, as a substitute for real change. If confession becomes a ritual to reset the scorecard rather than inspire transformation, it loses its sacramental power. Quoting Saint Benedict, he reminds us that prayer must be joined with work—our faith must be visible in our actions. Just as in any relationship, saying “I love you” without showing up, making time, and doing the hard work is hollow. So too with God: loving God with our whole being means acting out that love in the world, particularly through mercy and justice.
He also challenges the contemporary idolization of safety and control, which leads us to reduce our neighborhood to a few people who look, think, or act like us. But God doesn’t assign us neighbors; God invites us to choose them. The question, “Who is my neighbor?” is flipped on its head. Instead of asking who qualifies for our love, Jesus asks whether we will be the kind of people who love without qualification. The Samaritan didn’t ask if the beaten man was worthy; he acted because compassion compelled him.
Father Pat imagines that at the gates of heaven, God might ask not “Did you follow the rules?” but “Who were your neighbors?” Our answer reveals not just our social ethics, but our understanding of grace. The wideness of our compassion, the breadth of our love, and the willingness to suffer with others is the true measure of our faith. He concludes by urging us not to ask what’s the least we can do, but to fall in love with God so deeply that we are drawn to serve God’s children without limit. For to love God is to love those whom God loves....
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{"task": "transcribe", "langua {"task": "transcribe", "language": "english", "duration": 1039.4000244140625, "text": "The Lord be with you. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Luke. At that time the Lord appointed suddenly two others whom he sent ahead of him in pairs to every town and place he intended to visit. He said to them the harvest was abundant but laborers are few. So asked the master of the harvest to send out laborers for his harvest. Go on your way behold I am sending you like lambs among wolves. Carry no money, bag, no sack, no sandals and greet no one along the way. Into whatever house you enter say peace to this household. If a peaceful person lives there your peace will rest on him but if not it will return to you. Stay in the same house and eat and drink what is offered to you for the laborer deserves his payment. Do not move about from one house to another whatever town you enter and they welcome you eat what is set before you. Cure the sick in it and say to them the kingdom of God is at hand for you. The Gospel of the Lord. This this gospel has a couple little hidden bombs in it that we don't notice because we're so removed from a culture that was 2,000 years ago across the world and we don't see the things. There were lines where the people of the day who first read this and heard Jesus say these things their heads would have blown up. They would they they would have they would have started putting up the cross themselves because it flew in the face of what they believed. Nothing is nothing is more threatening to people than someone with a different worldview and so where it comes down a couple places first and probably the most shocking to them is this for you and I this heartless little line you know that if they welcome you stay in their house. If they welcome you eat what they give you. You try telling that to a Catholic on a Friday during Lent. What what happened to keeping kosher? One of the first laws of keeping kosher was not simply what to eat but that you did not sit down at table and eat with people who themselves were not keeping kosher. So he's basically undoing a lot of the stuff not just that they have in in their faith but that was sort of the heroic ends of their faith. We don't really have these with with our dietary stuff but you know they have these great hero stories of the people who would rather die than be forced to eat pork. My aunt used to make pork like that but I mean you know this sort of this heroic you know the heroes of our faith they were not going to break kosher no matter what Jesus says. If they welcome you eat what they put in front of you. You and I cannot probably get our heads around how unnerving that was to the people who first heard this. The welcome and the sharing is going to be more important than I did everything right. We tend to think that we are we are good Catholics if we don't break any rules. It doesn't matter if we haven't made any friends helped anyone or ever give it to a charity. I got to mass on Sunday. We like to diminish our faith to the minutiae because it's easier. It's it's easier to have a list of things that you don't have to do. As I said you know people who their entire list of faith is what we don't do. The holiest person in the world is whoever's in a coma. You're not getting anything done but they aren't doing anything either. You know we have to get past this they're doing the wrong thing and the greatest expression of my faith can have is to tell other people what they're doing wrong. That's not the greatest expression of our faith. Whenever we hear someone say you know we have to stand up for our faith they're not talking about feeding the poor. We're visiting the lonely or you know helping those who are sick. That's how we stand up for our faith is we become you know Christian examples. I was at the back of mass a few weeks ago and someone I just overheard a conversation between two people and and and someone said oh well you know I'm going to my my daughter's wedding and it'll be worse. It's not the church but I'm going anyway and the friend said well good because no one ever brought anyone back to church by being judgmental. He thought he was confessing someone and they thought he was heroic. You know it's just no one brings people back to church by letting them know how bad they are. You know and and Jesus says so I'm gonna send you out and here's the thing I'm gonna first before I send you out to share your faith with anyone I'm gonna make you dependent on them. Don't bring he does say don't bring money but don't bring the money bag in other words you could whatever you didn't carry in your hands I don't want you to not have money for the day but I also don't want you to have money for tomorrow. You know and even says and don't try to make friends along the way when you get to where you're going if they invite you in you make friends with the people there and you stay in that house and you make that relationship work and what he's done is he said what he's basically said is you know take no arrogance with you because when you must depend upon people you're about to share faith with that that takes all of the arrogance right out of you. These people have already extended welcome to you and in those desert communities an extending welcome to you is saving your life. People didn't live out in the desert without welcome for days. You just you know this is why hospitality is such an important part of Middle Eastern culture because without it people die and and you know we hopefully don't get to the point where we're like well good back they gone. No this is this is a biblical you know absolute commandment of hospitality and so he says they welcome you be welcomed if they're peaceful people give them the peace you have in your heart and let's stay with them and and if if you know if they serve baby with the eggs are you in for a treat? No. You know it's a it's that that I you know it not to push away the welcome because I'm sorry I live a better life than that and he's like well you can you can do that and you might even they might even learn about your faith but they ain't gonna grace it. You aren't you aren't going to bring people in and and the thing he does demand that they take with them is the thing we missed because we get this list of don't take this don't take this don't take this but it's already told you the punchline which is ahead of time he says I'm sending you out two by two. Take a companion. Do not go the Christian journey alone. Take someone with you. Take many people with you. Most most the times when we share faith really share faith it's one-on-one. We're we're face-to-face with someone. We can share in groups and some of that is wonderful but even even people who have you know gone to like Bible studies and they say oh we sit around a table and share our faith. If someone says something to you that hits home you're gonna seek that person out later and have a deeper sharing. The real deep sharing tends to be one-on-one and Jesus sends them out because if all of this dependency doesn't keep them from being arrogant a good companion will and I always I would love to think that what the first thing he did was take every one of them find out how they voted and put every Democrat and Republican together. That's a Christian Dean and Jesus told you to walk together. I you know my parents generation everyone I knew seemed to be not in faith but in reality a real mixed marriage. A Democrat and a Republican. I mean all of my parents friends I by the time I was 13 I thought marriage was when God gave you someone to cancel out of your vote. You know because it wasn't well I'm I'm going out and as soon as I find someone who reflects me to me I will match and and and we will be in love. You know love is about an other another person you know it's it is someone who we have some things in common and we challenge each other and in the challenge there you know there there's actual growth there's actual reason to be together. You know if someone says oh we agree on everything I'm like I am near it's cheaper. You don't get as many ring presents but it's still you know I mean there's this it's it's good to have people in our lives the challenges so Jesus sends them out two by two and then starts taking away the things that could make them too independent. Don't take a bunch of extra money, don't take a bunch of extra clothes, don't take everything, don't walk into a town going I don't met these people I'm here to share my faith. We walk in and we say no no we walk in with complete humility and and we we cannot share our faith until we've heard theirs and it's not about religion, it's not about the teachings of a church or a community, it's sharing our faith and most of us have rarely articulated our faith. We rarely talk to anyone about it. You know our religion we talk about we talk about the church says this, the church says this, the church says this, why does the church say that? But why you what what problem need to believe and someone says well you know it's not ours to believe it the bishops say and you believe it what brought you to that belief? You can't say I believe in the bishops because the bishops told me. So what brought you to that belief? What brought you to belief in Jesus? What makes you experience God and grace in life? When is it most difficult to experience? It's fascinating how many people lose faith when life goes bad while at the same time so many people that's the experience that deepens their faith. And other people, joyous moments they can see God and other people think joyous moments is where their mind is thinking about God. They're just lost in the joy. Every person is a different image of God. I think we believe that you know we are all created in the image of God and as soon as we figure out what we all have exactly in common we'll understand what the image is. No. No. God is infinite. There are more possible images of God than there are people in all of history. And so when we encounter one another it's another image of God. It's another piece of the puzzle. And and we should talk about our experience of faith. In a few minutes we're going to get together and say here is the faith we hold in common. Listen to how vague those statements are. Because what we hold in common has a million different colors to it. You know I believe in one God the Father Almighty. That means a gazillion different things to a gazillion different people. And it has language that we can agree on but it doesn't it doesn't shape out exactly the same for each person. You know we sometimes think as I've mentioned before that you know that Pokes just throw out infallible teachings right and left. Last time the Pope threw out something for papal infallibility was in the 1950s. Papal infallibility has been exercised three times in history. And the first time was to define papal infallibility. So people who think that you know the Pope is just throwing things out right and left it's gonna rain tomorrow. If you're a Catholic you are required to carry an umbrella. No. That's not faith that's weather. You know. And the last thing he he defined that with one of the Pope's defined infallibility was the doctrine of the assumption of Mary. That Mary was assumed into heaven and he was so careful about it because he's supposed to make explicit something that has always been implied in the faith. That's just been there for centuries. They do not invoke infallibility on some hot topic of the week because they're they're not making explicit something that's always been in the faith. So in the 1950s the Pope was pressured into this because there were two roots fighting in the church. One believed that Mary at the end of her life died and went immediately to heaven and the others believe she immediately went to heaven without dying. Both had a long history in the church but they wanted him to absolutely define the assumption. So he had to find according to Catholic faith that Mary at the end of her earthly course was assumed into heaven body and soul. Didn't answer the question they wanted. Why? Because the Catholic faith held both. He wasn't trying to make new doctrine. I mean these statements we make are vague. So many people I know that will say I believe everything in there even consubstantial which I have no idea what it means but I believe it. These are words the community as he's chosen but your faith is something very individual and we have to find those groups with whom we can share that. We have to find people in our lives that we can talk about the deeper issues and our own experience and and there are no hard and fast edges on that. You know when someone says well I'll talk faith but not politics. You're never going to draw that line because our faith tells us how we should treat people and politics is sort of the communal agreements on how we treat people. How we treat each other. What are the rights of a community against the rights of an individual. You can't really separate you know faith from family dynamics. You can't separate you know faith from how we do things in the world and so we have to have commandments. We have to have people we share deeply and the more that we have even if the deepest conversations are always one-on-one. You're not always with the same person and the more we have the more images of God we access and and the more we start to understand who we're called to be together in the world and so we ask God make us a people who before we worry about whether and where do I have enough money and do I have enough clothing do I have enough things do I have enough power in the world do we have enough relationship. Who are the people you know the old the old saying no one takes a U-Haul to the cemetery. I know it's not you know I I think all of us have to know that everything everything we have in life we lose at death except relationships. Relationship of ourself, relationship with God, relationship with others. 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Listen to how vague those", "tokens": [51454, 293, 584, 510, 307, 264, 4522, 321, 1797, 294, 2689, 13, 7501, 281, 577, 24247, 729, 51732], "temperature": 0.0, "avg_logprob": -0.2506411671638489, "compression_ratio": 1.6523605585098267, "no_speech_prob": 0.013629789464175701}, {"id": 132, "seek": 75184, "start": 751.8800048828125, "end": 758.239990234375, "text": " statements are. Because what we hold in common has a million different colors to", "tokens": [50366, 12363, 366, 13, 1436, 437, 321, 1797, 294, 2689, 575, 257, 2459, 819, 4577, 281, 50684], "temperature": 0.0, "avg_logprob": -0.2622700333595276, "compression_ratio": 1.6926406621932983, "no_speech_prob": 0.004980573430657387}, {"id": 133, "seek": 75184, "start": 758.239990234375, "end": 763.8800048828125, "text": " it. You know I believe in one God the Father Almighty. 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The Lord WEBVTT
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The Lord be with you. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Luke. At that
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time the Lord appointed suddenly two others whom he sent ahead of him in
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pairs to every town and place he intended to visit. He said to them the
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harvest was abundant but laborers are few. So asked the master of the harvest
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to send out laborers for his harvest. Go on your way behold I am sending you like
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lambs among wolves. Carry no money, bag, no sack, no sandals and greet no one
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along the way. Into whatever house you enter say peace to this household. If a
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peaceful person lives there your peace will rest on him but if not it will
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return to you. Stay in the same house and eat and drink what is offered to you
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for the laborer deserves his payment. Do not move about from one house to
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another whatever town you enter and they welcome you eat what is set before
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you. Cure the sick in it and say to them the kingdom of God is at hand for you.
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The Gospel of the Lord. This this gospel has a couple little hidden bombs in it
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that we don't notice because we're so removed from a culture that was 2,000
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years ago across the world and we don't see the things. There were lines where
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the people of the day who first read this and heard Jesus say these things
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their heads would have blown up. They would they they would have they would
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have started putting up the cross themselves because it flew in the face
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of what they believed. Nothing is nothing is more threatening to people than
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someone with a different worldview and so where it comes down a couple
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places first and probably the most shocking to them is this for you and I
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this heartless little line you know that if they welcome you stay in their house.
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If they welcome you eat what they give you. You try telling that to a Catholic
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on a Friday during Lent. What what happened to keeping kosher? One of the
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first laws of keeping kosher was not simply what to eat but that you did not
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sit down at table and eat with people who themselves were not keeping kosher.
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So he's basically undoing a lot of the stuff not just that they have in in
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their faith but that was sort of the heroic ends of their faith. We don't
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really have these with with our dietary stuff but you know they have these great
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hero stories of the people who would rather die than be forced to eat pork.
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My aunt used to make pork like that but I mean you know this sort of this
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heroic you know the heroes of our faith they were not going to break kosher no
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matter what Jesus says. If they welcome you eat what they put in front of you.
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You and I cannot probably get our heads around how unnerving that was to the
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people who first heard this. The welcome and the sharing is going to be
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more important than I did everything right. We tend to think that we are
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we are good Catholics if we don't break any rules. It doesn't matter if we
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haven't made any friends helped anyone or ever give it to a charity. I got to
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mass on Sunday. We like to diminish our faith to the minutiae because it's
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easier. It's it's easier to have a list of things that you don't have to do. As I
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said you know people who their entire list of faith is what we don't do. The
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holiest person in the world is whoever's in a coma. You're not getting anything
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done but they aren't doing anything either. You know we have to get past this
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they're doing the wrong thing and the greatest expression of my faith can have
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is to tell other people what they're doing wrong. That's not the greatest
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expression of our faith. Whenever we hear someone say you know we have to stand up
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for our faith they're not talking about feeding the poor. We're visiting the
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lonely or you know helping those who are sick. That's how we stand up for our
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faith is we become you know Christian examples. I was at the back of mass a few
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weeks ago and someone I just overheard a conversation between two people and and
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and someone said oh well you know I'm going to my my daughter's wedding and
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it'll be worse. It's not the church but I'm going anyway and the friend said
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well good because no one ever brought anyone back to church by being judgmental.
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He thought he was confessing someone and they thought he was heroic. You know it's
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just no one brings people back to church by letting them know how bad they are.
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You know and and Jesus says so I'm gonna send you out and here's the thing I'm
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gonna first before I send you out to share your faith with anyone I'm gonna
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make you dependent on them. Don't bring he does say don't bring money but don't
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bring the money bag in other words you could whatever you didn't carry in your
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hands I don't want you to not have money for the day but I also don't want you to
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have money for tomorrow. You know and even says and don't try to make friends
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along the way when you get to where you're going if they invite you in you
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make friends with the people there and you stay in that house and you make that
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relationship work and what he's done is he said what he's basically said is you
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know take no arrogance with you because when you must depend upon people you're
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about to share faith with that that takes all of the arrogance right out of
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you. These people have already extended welcome to you and in those
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desert communities an extending welcome to you is saving your life. People didn't
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live out in the desert without welcome for days. You just you know this is why
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hospitality is such an important part of Middle Eastern culture because without
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it people die and and you know we hopefully don't get to the point where
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we're like well good back they gone. No this is this is a biblical you know
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absolute commandment of hospitality and so he says they welcome you be welcomed
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if they're peaceful people give them the peace you have in your heart and let's
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stay with them and and if if you know if they serve baby with the eggs are you in
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for a treat? No. You know it's a it's that that I you know it not to push away
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the welcome because I'm sorry I live a better life than that and he's like well
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you can you can do that and you might even they might even learn about your
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faith but they ain't gonna grace it. You aren't you aren't going to bring people
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in and and the thing he does demand that they take with them is the thing
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we missed because we get this list of don't take this don't take this don't
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take this but it's already told you the punchline which is ahead of time he says
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I'm sending you out two by two. Take a companion. Do not go the Christian
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journey alone. Take someone with you. Take many people with you. Most most the
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times when we share faith really share faith it's one-on-one. We're we're
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face-to-face with someone. We can share in groups and some of that is wonderful
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but even even people who have you know gone to like Bible studies and they say
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oh we sit around a table and share our faith. If someone says something to you
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that hits home you're gonna seek that person out later and have a deeper
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sharing. The real deep sharing tends to be one-on-one and Jesus sends them out
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because if all of this dependency doesn't keep them from being arrogant a
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good companion will and I always I would love to think that what the first thing
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he did was take every one of them find out how they voted and put every
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Democrat and Republican together. That's a Christian Dean and Jesus told you to
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walk together. I you know my parents generation everyone I knew seemed to be
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not in faith but in reality a real mixed marriage. A Democrat and a Republican. I
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mean all of my parents friends I by the time I was 13 I thought marriage was
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when God gave you someone to cancel out of your vote. You know because it wasn't
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well I'm I'm going out and as soon as I find someone who reflects me to me I
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will match and and and we will be in love. You know love is about an other
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another person you know it's it is someone who we have some things in
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common and we challenge each other and in the challenge there you know there
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there's actual growth there's actual reason to be together. You know if
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someone says oh we agree on everything I'm like I am near it's cheaper. You
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don't get as many ring presents but it's still you know I mean there's this it's
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it's good to have people in our lives the challenges so Jesus sends them out
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two by two and then starts taking away the things that could make them too
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independent. Don't take a bunch of extra money, don't take a bunch of extra clothes,
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don't take everything, don't walk into a town going I don't met these people I'm
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here to share my faith. We walk in and we say no no we walk in with complete
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humility and and we we cannot share our faith until we've heard theirs and it's
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not about religion, it's not about the teachings of a church or a community,
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it's sharing our faith and most of us have rarely articulated our faith. We
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rarely talk to anyone about it. You know our religion we talk about we talk about
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the church says this, the church says this, the church says this, why does the
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church say that? But why you what what problem need to believe and someone says
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well you know it's not ours to believe it the bishops say and you believe it
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what brought you to that belief? You can't say I believe in the bishops
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because the bishops told me. So what brought you to that belief? What brought
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you to belief in Jesus? What makes you experience God and grace in life? When is
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it most difficult to experience? It's fascinating how many people lose faith
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when life goes bad while at the same time so many people that's the
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experience that deepens their faith. And other people, joyous moments they can see
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God and other people think joyous moments is where their mind is thinking
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about God. They're just lost in the joy. Every person is a different image of God.
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I think we believe that you know we are all created in the image of God and as
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soon as we figure out what we all have exactly in common we'll understand what
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the image is. No. No. God is infinite. There are more possible images of God
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than there are people in all of history. And so when we encounter one another
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it's another image of God. It's another piece of the puzzle. And and we should
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talk about our experience of faith. In a few minutes we're going to get together
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and say here is the faith we hold in common. Listen to how vague those
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statements are. Because what we hold in common has a million different colors to
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it. You know I believe in one God the Father Almighty. That means a gazillion
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different things to a gazillion different people. And it has language that we can
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agree on but it doesn't it doesn't shape out exactly the same for each person. You
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know we sometimes think as I've mentioned before that you know that
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Pokes just throw out infallible teachings right and left. Last time the
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Pope threw out something for papal infallibility was in the 1950s.
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Papal infallibility has been exercised three times in history. And the first
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time was to define papal infallibility. So people who think that you know the
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Pope is just throwing things out right and left it's gonna rain tomorrow. If
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you're a Catholic you are required to carry an umbrella. No. That's not faith
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that's weather. You know. And the last thing he he defined that with one of the
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Pope's defined infallibility was the doctrine of the assumption of Mary. That
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Mary was assumed into heaven and he was so careful about it because he's
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supposed to make explicit something that has always been implied in the faith.
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That's just been there for centuries. They do not invoke infallibility on some
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hot topic of the week because they're they're not making explicit something
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that's always been in the faith. So in the 1950s the Pope was pressured into
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this because there were two roots fighting in the church. One believed that
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Mary at the end of her life died and went immediately to heaven and the
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others believe she immediately went to heaven without dying. Both had a long
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history in the church but they wanted him to absolutely define the assumption.
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So he had to find according to Catholic faith that Mary at the end of her
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earthly course was assumed into heaven body and soul. Didn't answer the question
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they wanted. Why? Because the Catholic faith held both. He wasn't trying to make
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new doctrine. I mean these statements we make are vague. So many people I know
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that will say I believe everything in there even consubstantial which I have
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no idea what it means but I believe it.
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These are words the community as he's chosen but your faith is something very
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individual and we have to find those groups with whom we can share that. We
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have to find people in our lives that we can talk about the deeper issues and our
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own experience and and there are no hard and fast edges on that. You know
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when someone says well I'll talk faith but not politics. You're never going to
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draw that line because our faith tells us how we should treat people
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and politics is sort of the communal agreements on how we treat people. How we
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treat each other. What are the rights of a community against the rights of an
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individual. You can't really separate you know faith from family dynamics. You
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can't separate you know faith from how we do things in the world and so we have
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to have commandments. We have to have people we share deeply and the more
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that we have even if the deepest conversations are always one-on-one.
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You're not always with the same person and the more we have the more images of
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God we access and and the more we start to understand who we're called to be
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together in the world and so we ask God make us a people who before we worry
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about whether and where do I have enough money and do I have enough clothing do I
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have enough things do I have enough power in the world do we have enough
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relationship. Who are the people you know the old the old saying no one takes a
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U-Haul to the cemetery. I know it's not you know I I think all of us have to
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know that everything everything we have in life we lose at death except
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relationships. Relationship of ourself, relationship with God, relationship with
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others. It's all we take with us and God asks us to start experiencing as fully
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as we can. You know power faith with one another. We can always experience
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spirituality all on our own but faith is a road we walk together or quite often a
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road we stop walking all to Him.
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Father Pat’s message centers on the radical hospit Father Pat’s message centers on the radical hospitality, vulnerability, and relational nature of the Christian mission as outlined in the Gospel of Luke. He emphasizes that Jesus sends his disciples not with power or provision, but in humility and dependence, challenging religious and cultural norms. The essence of faith, according to Father Pat, lies not in rule-following or judgment, but in shared humanity, mutual dependence, and deep, personal connection with others. He critiques the tendency to reduce religion to a checklist of prohibitions and instead calls for a lived, relational faith that embraces the diversity of God's image in each person and values spiritual growth through relationship, dialogue, and vulnerability.
The detailed message Father Pat presents unfolds in layers of scriptural insight, cultural critique, and pastoral wisdom. Beginning with the Gospel passage from Luke, he draws attention to Jesus’ instruction for the seventy-two disciples: they are to go out in pairs, carry no money, no bag, no sandals, and accept the hospitality of strangers. Far from being a simple missionary directive, Father Pat reveals how subversive and transformative these instructions were in their original context. For a first-century Jewish audience deeply committed to ritual purity and dietary laws, the command to "eat whatever is set before you" would have been scandalous. It undermined cherished boundaries, especially the prohibition against eating with those who did not observe kosher laws. In doing so, Jesus prioritized relationship and welcome over religious purity—effectively shifting the foundation of holiness from separation to connection.
Father Pat contrasts this with the contemporary Catholic experience, where faith can often be reduced to rule-following and moral policing. He critiques the notion that holiness is defined by abstention—what we don’t do—rather than by the active embodiment of love, mercy, and justice. He uses humor and lived examples—like the person who thought they were being virtuous by avoiding their daughter’s non-church wedding—to illustrate the futility of judgmentalism in evangelization. “No one ever brought anyone back to church by being judgmental,” he quips, pointing instead to the power of presence, compassion, and humility.
One of the most profound points Father Pat makes is about the structure of the missionary journey: Jesus sends them out two by two. In this seemingly minor detail, Father Pat finds deep theological meaning. Faith, he argues, is not a solitary journey. Christianity is not meant to be lived in isolation. Companionship on the road—especially with those who challenge our perspectives—is essential. He humorously imagines Jesus pairing Democrats and Republicans together to emphasize the need for spiritual relationships that are both affirming and challenging. Such pairings ensure that we don’t become self-righteous or arrogant in our faith-sharing, because a good companion will keep us grounded and accountable.
Father Pat also explores the theological implications of dependence. Jesus commands his disciples not to bring provisions for the journey—not even extra money for tomorrow. This forces them into a posture of vulnerability and reliance on the very people they are sent to evangelize. In doing so, Jesus inverts the power dynamic: the evangelizer becomes the guest, the needy one. This dependence strips away arrogance and fosters genuine human connection. In the harsh reality of desert life, hospitality was not a nicety—it was life-saving. And Jesus commands his disciples to accept it with gratitude, even if it comes in forms that challenge their preferences or traditions.
The emphasis on peace is another cornerstone of Father Pat’s reflection. The disciples are to greet each house with peace, and if the household is peaceful, the peace will rest there; if not, it will return. This dynamic of peace-giving and peace-receiving is relational, not coercive. It respects the freedom of the other and centers the mission not on conversion through argument but on the offering of peace and presence.
Father Pat also challenges the modern Catholic tendency to define faith solely through doctrine or institutional identity. He underscores the importance of articulating one’s personal faith—not merely repeating what the Church teaches, but reflecting on why one believes, how one experiences grace, and when faith is most and least accessible. He points out that many Catholics can recite creeds and doctrines they don’t understand—“even consubstantial, which I have no idea what it means, but I believe it”—yet struggle to express a personal relationship with God. Faith, he insists, is not merely assent to abstract truths but a lived encounter, shaped by our stories, struggles, and relationships.
Finally, Father Pat touches on the eternal significance of relationships. Material possessions, status, and achievements do not follow us beyond death. What endures are relationships—our relationship with God, with ourselves, and with others. These are the treasures we carry into eternity. Thus, the Christian life must prioritize relationship over possession, connection over division, and humility over self-reliance.
In essence, Father Pat calls for a deeply relational, incarnational spirituality—one that mirrors Jesus’ own approach. Evangelization is not about convincing others through argument or moral superiority, but about walking alongside them, receiving from them, and sharing the peace and presence of Christ in humility and love. True faith is not rigid adherence to rules, but the courage to be vulnerable, the willingness to grow through challenge, and the grace to recognize God’s image in every person we meet....
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The Almighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name. He has mercy on those who fear him in every generation. He has shown the strength of his arm and has scattered the proud in their conceit. He has cast down the mighty from their thrones and has lifted up the lowly. He has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent away empty. He has come to the help of his servant Israel, for he has remembered the promise of mercy, the promise he made to our fathers, to Abraham and his children forever. Mary remained with her about three months and then returned to her home. The Gospel of the Lord. It has been, for me, watching TV a very rough 24 hours. Today we have this Feast of the Assumption, and yet the church once more has this elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about. And, you know, I will address it more fully this weekend, but I think it's painful to people to come into church and have it ignored. It has to be addressed. It's in some ways easier today because we don't have quite the wealth of young people here, and I go back and forth between thinking, well, what do you say without making it too vague? What do you say before parents are running from the room with their children because it's inappropriate? And the truth is we're just going to have to learn to use the word sexual abuse from the pulpit. More importantly, we're going to have to learn that the problem is not sexual, the problem is abuse. Because I think the thing no one wants to admit yet is that this or something else will never stop until abuse becomes unpalatable. And abuse can be a priest yelling at someone in a sacristy. Abuse can be a misappropriation of funds. Abuse can be, well, you never question Father because He goes off the rail. Until we knock those of us in collar, until we knock the clergy off our pedestals, even if we all prayed on the Feast of the Annunciation, the Assumption today, and everyone was made magically pure in body, we would find another way to be abusive. We cannot have unquestioned power. Father says so cannot be good enough for a community of adults. We can still call priests Father unless by doing so you feel like children. That's where we have to get to, is that we have to be a people who understand. I listened to, I think it was the prosecutor, the state's attorney, and I thought, he just can't let go of it. He's been beaten down, obviously, at an early age when he said, you know, we found out that all these priests had done this and the men of God in charge of them were looking the other way. And I thought, he still calls them men of God. Can't get away from it, can you? You know, rather than, you know, a bunch of schmoes trying like the rest of us, and the difference is the rest of us have boundaries, and we've magically taken the boundaries off a whole group of people and said whatever they say goes. I remember at my last parish, we'd have a liturgy team, about, it was a small parish, but about six of the most talented women I'd ever met who would come in and make the place ready for Lent, make the place ready for Easter. And they'd always come over to the office and grab me and say, can you come over and see if it's right? Now, I have, I have the decorating sense of a biker. And they'd call me over and they'd say, is it good, is it good? And I finally had to say to them, look, few things, obviously, no hallelujahs during Lent, here are the colors, this, that, and the other. Beyond that, you guys have a better eye than I do. And if you come up with something that the community loves for Lent and I hate it, it's still right. Well, does Father like it? What about Father? You know, Father's had enough training that he should be able to find something spiritual in anything. Let's figure out what the parish needs. Rather than, oh no, Father's had the training so that narrower, narrower, narrower vision should control everyone. We can't continue to put people on pedestals. There was a man a few months back who was writing a book about these abuses. And he wanted me to read the book and get behind him and start a movement and yadda yadda. And I thought, he doesn't understand. He doesn't understand. I've got this important message, but it doesn't mean anything until I get a priest behind it. He's undoing his own movement. You know, you'll notice in Hollywood, when the Me Too movement happened, they didn't first go to see if they could get a couple of powerful producers to back them. That wasn't their first move. What they started to realize was, that movement will do no good until income equality is fixed. If you're not going to fix the equality issue, some people will always end up hurt. And in the church, we're going to have to knock down some podiums. Not look at every single person with more suspicion than the average person, just not look at them with any less. And start to become a group of adults that, you know, I think right now, safe environment, which is, it's not a bad training, but it wants to make sure that one specific kind of abuse can't happen anymore without taking away the clergy's right to abuse people in other ways. It's a bad plan. What we have to do is say, you know, on this feast of Mary, that life we look at lived perfectly, Mary's virginity is not what made her a great person. It was her ability to give her life for others. And that's something we all have. And so I think, you know, we have to start focusing on the word abuse. The word sexual made everyone so uncomfortable, you know, I still can't believe when they say, well, you know, they got the police to look the other way, and they got the parents to look the other way, and I'm mad at the priests, and I'm mad at the police, and I'm mad at the parents, and I'm mad at the psychologists. You know, why? Well, you know, well, the priest told us to. All I can hear is my grandmother from heaven saying, if they told you to jump off a cliff, but I think in church, when clergy says jump off a cliff, we think, if I'm a person of real faith, the crazier it is, the more faith I'll have to do it. That's a dangerous, dangerous dynamic. And as odd as it is, what I'm asking is that you help us as clergy by forcing us off the pedestals. It's not disloyal. As a matter of fact, where it may feel disloyal to a person here, a clergy member there, it might, it's real loyalty to the image of the church. 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A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Luke.
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Mary set out and traveled to the hill country in haste to a town of Judah, where she entered
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the house of Zechariah and greeted Elizabeth.
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When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the infant leapt in her womb, and Elizabeth, filled
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with the Holy Spirit, said in a loud voice, Blessed are you among women, and blessed is
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the fruit of your womb.
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And how does this happen to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
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From the moment the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the infant in my womb leaped
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for joy.
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Blessed are you who believed that what was spoken to you by the Lord would be fulfilled.
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And Mary said, My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord.
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My spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has looked with favor on his lowly servants.
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From this day all generations will call me blessed.
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The Almighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name.
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He has mercy on those who fear him in every generation.
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He has shown the strength of his arm and has scattered the proud in their conceit.
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He has cast down the mighty from their thrones and has lifted up the lowly.
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He has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent away empty.
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He has come to the help of his servant Israel, for he has remembered the promise of mercy,
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the promise he made to our fathers, to Abraham and his children forever.
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Mary remained with her about three months and then returned to her home.
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The Gospel of the Lord.
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It has been, for me, watching TV a very rough 24 hours.
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Today we have this Feast of the Assumption, and yet the church once more has this elephant
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in the room that no one wants to talk about.
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And, you know, I will address it more fully this weekend, but I think it's painful to
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people to come into church and have it ignored.
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It has to be addressed.
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It's in some ways easier today because we don't have quite the wealth of young people
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here, and I go back and forth between thinking, well, what do you say without making it too
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vague?
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What do you say before parents are running from the room with their children because
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it's inappropriate?
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And the truth is we're just going to have to learn to use the word sexual abuse from
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the pulpit.
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More importantly, we're going to have to learn that the problem is not sexual, the problem
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is abuse.
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Because I think the thing no one wants to admit yet is that this or something else will
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never stop until abuse becomes unpalatable.
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And abuse can be a priest yelling at someone in a sacristy.
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Abuse can be a misappropriation of funds.
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Abuse can be, well, you never question Father because He goes off the rail.
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Until we knock those of us in collar, until we knock the clergy off our pedestals, even
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if we all prayed on the Feast of the Annunciation, the Assumption today, and everyone was made
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magically pure in body, we would find another way to be abusive.
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We cannot have unquestioned power.
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Father says so cannot be good enough for a community of adults.
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We can still call priests Father unless by doing so you feel like children.
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That's where we have to get to, is that we have to be a people who understand.
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I listened to, I think it was the prosecutor, the state's attorney, and I thought, he just
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can't let go of it.
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He's been beaten down, obviously, at an early age when he said, you know, we found out that
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all these priests had done this and the men of God in charge of them were looking the
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other way.
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And I thought, he still calls them men of God.
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Can't get away from it, can you?
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You know, rather than, you know, a bunch of schmoes trying like the rest of us, and the
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difference is the rest of us have boundaries, and we've magically taken the boundaries off
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a whole group of people and said whatever they say goes.
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I remember at my last parish, we'd have a liturgy team, about, it was a small parish,
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but about six of the most talented women I'd ever met who would come in and make the place
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ready for Lent, make the place ready for Easter.
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And they'd always come over to the office and grab me and say, can you come over and
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see if it's right?
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Now, I have, I have the decorating sense of a biker.
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And they'd call me over and they'd say, is it good, is it good?
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And I finally had to say to them, look, few things, obviously, no hallelujahs during Lent,
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here are the colors, this, that, and the other.
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Beyond that, you guys have a better eye than I do.
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And if you come up with something that the community loves for Lent and I hate it, it's
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still right.
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Well, does Father like it?
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What about Father?
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You know, Father's had enough training that he should be able to find something spiritual
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in anything.
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Let's figure out what the parish needs.
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Rather than, oh no, Father's had the training so that narrower, narrower, narrower vision
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should control everyone.
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We can't continue to put people on pedestals.
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There was a man a few months back who was writing a book about these abuses.
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And he wanted me to read the book and get behind him and start a movement and yadda
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yadda.
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And I thought, he doesn't understand.
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He doesn't understand.
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I've got this important message, but it doesn't mean anything until I get a priest behind
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it.
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He's undoing his own movement.
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You know, you'll notice in Hollywood, when the Me Too movement happened, they didn't
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first go to see if they could get a couple of powerful producers to back them.
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That wasn't their first move.
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What they started to realize was, that movement will do no good until income equality is fixed.
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If you're not going to fix the equality issue, some people will always end up hurt.
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And in the church, we're going to have to knock down some podiums.
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Not look at every single person with more suspicion than the average person, just not
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look at them with any less.
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And start to become a group of adults that, you know, I think right now, safe environment,
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which is, it's not a bad training, but it wants to make sure that one specific kind
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of abuse can't happen anymore without taking away the clergy's right to abuse people in
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other ways.
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It's a bad plan.
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What we have to do is say, you know, on this feast of Mary, that life we look at lived
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perfectly, Mary's virginity is not what made her a great person.
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It was her ability to give her life for others.
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And that's something we all have.
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And so I think, you know, we have to start focusing on the word abuse.
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The word sexual made everyone so uncomfortable, you know, I still can't believe when they
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say, well, you know, they got the police to look the other way, and they got the parents
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to look the other way, and I'm mad at the priests, and I'm mad at the police, and I'm
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mad at the parents, and I'm mad at the psychologists.
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You know, why?
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Well, you know, well, the priest told us to.
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All I can hear is my grandmother from heaven saying, if they told you to jump off a cliff,
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but I think in church, when clergy says jump off a cliff, we think, if I'm a person of
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real faith, the crazier it is, the more faith I'll have to do it.
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That's a dangerous, dangerous dynamic.
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And as odd as it is, what I'm asking is that you help us as clergy by forcing us off the
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pedestals.
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It's not disloyal.
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As a matter of fact, where it may feel disloyal to a person here, a clergy member there, it
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might, it's real loyalty to the image of the church.
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You know, we have learned over the last couple decades that blindly following who's ever
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in charge at the moment is not patriotism.
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Blindly following the clergy is not faithful to the church.
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Father Pat’s message on the Feast of the Assumptio Father Pat’s message on the Feast of the Assumption is a bold, prophetic call for accountability, maturity, and transformation within the Church. Rooted in the Gospel account of Mary’s humble yet courageous faith, he challenges the faithful to imitate her not in her purity of body, but in her strength of spirit, her radical self-offering, and her deep trust in God. While honoring Mary’s exaltation, Father Pat confronts the Church’s ongoing crisis of abuse—not merely sexual abuse, but the broader, systemic abuse of power—and urges the faithful to dismantle the culture of clericalism that has allowed such harm to persist. His message is not one of despair, but of hope grounded in truth: that the Church can be renewed not through silence or pedestal-building, but through honesty, shared responsibility, and a mature, adult faith that refuses to confuse reverence with blind obedience.
In detail, Father Pat juxtaposes the beauty and solemnity of the Assumption with the painful realities the Church must confront. The Gospel tells of Mary’s visitation to Elizabeth, a moment filled with joy, Spirit-filled recognition, and prophetic affirmation. Elizabeth honors Mary not for her status, but for her belief that “what was spoken to her by the Lord would be fulfilled.” Mary responds not with pride, but with humility—her Magnificat proclaims the greatness of God, who lifts the lowly and casts down the mighty. Father Pat draws a powerful parallel: the Church, too, must become lowly again, shedding its institutional pride and reclaiming its vocation to serve, not dominate.
He critiques the clerical culture that has insulated priests from accountability by elevating them above the community. Abuse, he insists, is not only sexual—it is the misuse of authority in any form: verbal, financial, spiritual. He rejects the notion that ordination confers superiority or infallibility, arguing that unquestioned power inevitably leads to harm. The problem is not a few corrupt individuals, but a system that makes abuse palatable by protecting those in power and silencing those who suffer. By confronting this truth, Father Pat affirms that real healing can only begin where honesty is allowed to flourish.
Moreover, he challenges the laity to stop surrendering their agency and to become a community of adults. The deference to clergy must be replaced with mutual accountability. He shares a personal story of women in his parish who continually sought his approval for decorations, despite their own clear talents, highlighting how ingrained the need for clerical validation has become. True leadership, he asserts, is about empowering others, not controlling them.
Father Pat also critiques current safeguarding efforts that focus narrowly on preventing one form of abuse while leaving the door open to others. He likens this to the Me Too movement, noting that systemic change only comes when underlying structures—like income inequality or, in the Church’s case, power imbalance—are addressed.
He concludes by returning to Mary. Her greatness lies not in her physical virginity but in her spiritual courage, her willingness to say "yes" to God, and her embodiment of sacrificial love. That calling belongs to every Christian. On this feast, the Church must not only venerate Mary but imitate her by lifting up the lowly, being fearless in truth, and choosing real holiness over appearances.
In essence, Father Pat is calling for a Church that is less hierarchical and more communal, less defensive and more honest, less about control and more about service—a Church that does not idolize its clergy, but challenges them to walk humbly with God and with the people they serve....
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{"task": "transcribe", "langua {"task": "transcribe", "language": "english", "duration": 847.3099975585938, "text": "The Lord be with you. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Luke. Jesus came down with the twelve and stood on a stretch of level ground with a great crowd of his disciples and a large number of the people from all Judea and Jerusalem and the coastal region of Tyre and Zee and raising his eyes toward his disciples he said, Blessed are you who are poor for the kingdom of God is yours. Blessed are you who are now hungry for you will be satisfied. Blessed are you who are now weeping for you will laugh. Blessed are you when people hate you and when they exclude you and insult you and denounce your name is evil on account of the Son of Man. Rejoice on that day for your reward will be great in heaven for their ancestors treated the prophets in the same way. But woe to you who are rich for you have received your consolation. Woe to you who are fulfilled who are filled now for you will be hungry. Woe to you who will laugh now for you will grieve and weep. Woe to you when all speak well of you for their ancestors treated the false prophets in this way. The Gospel of the Lord. I'm going to, I always say this, but I'm actually going to be brief today. I'm feeling horrible. Friday afternoon I had my second shingle shot. That was the reaction I got at the last NewsHour. It's been like, it's been like a review the greatest health hits of 2024. It's like every injury, every hurt I've had is the swelling comes back everywhere that you've had anything. And even places where I didn't know I had anything. But, you know, I know I'm gonna get past it so I know it's not, I'm not worried about it. And, you know, people keep coming up saying it's better than getting shingles. It's better than getting stuck in the eye with a stick. But, cold comfort. Last Mass I was so out of it. I got up to the Gospel. I said, the Lord be with me. One person said it also with us, which would have been tremendous. So this Gospel of the Sermon and Luke's, we don't even hear the praise, but Luke's is called the Sermon on the Plain. It's the same sermon, but Luke, where Matthew says Jesus leads them up onto a mountain and they all sit on the mountain. And you can just picture Jesus up there and he's preaching to them. Luke says Jesus comes down the mountain and gets them all on a level playing field and preaches. Because this is Luke's, this is his opening volley of what's going to be the thesis of his whole Gospel. It's what we call the Lucanian version. And it's, he hits on in the Magnificat, but you have to remember the Magnificat, even though when you and I open the Gospel we read it first. The Nativity narrative was written almost a generation later. This was closer to the original opening. And he says, you know, the mighty will be brought down from their thrones and the lowly will be lifted up. And here you have him, blessed are you who are poor and blessed, you know, are you who are hungry. And then unlike Matthew, he goes after the, and woe to you who are rich and woe to you who are filled. And it's not, it's not a reward-punishment thing going on. It's an understanding of the nature of heaven and the nature of justice. I suppose in modern terms we would say, woe to you who live above the median level of humanity. For when justice comes, it will feel like a downgrade. And blessed are you who are living below that medium, because when justice comes, it will feel like an upgrade. This is the entire Lukan Gospel, is this idea that we, we tend to, you know, the idea is that in the end of time as we move into heaven, we start to experience one another's humanity, which is why we should go out of our way to alleviate any suffering we can with anyone. When someone's suffering, if you're Christian, you respond. If you're smart, you respond. You don't even have to be Christian. When someone is suffering, you know, we've been, we've been trained out of that. You know, when a four-year-old's mother is crying, I've never heard a four-year-old say, get over it. Be entertaining, but never seen it. Kids, when someone's really crying and suffering, they are disturbed by it, and we have to learn to not be disturbed. It is the great elephant in the corner of Christianity that no one likes to talk about, because it's in the middle of our theology, and it's the ugliest part of our theology, and it's so ubiquitous, we don't notice it's there. It's just everywhere. And that is, the goal of our Christianity is to get to heaven. And once you're in heaven, it won't bother you that there are people suffering in hell. You'll be eternally happy. And I've heard different ways around that. I've heard, well, you know, I was taught that when you get to heaven, that that knowledge of hell is taken from you. Oh, so you don't have to know their suffering. That's just not much better, is it? It's almost as though we should harden ourselves to suffering now, because otherwise, you know, those people in hell will get in the way of our suffering. You know, one of my favorite birthday cards, because even though I preach against it, I am a great fan of dark humor, and that is, my favorite birthday card ever had a picture of Marie Antoinette on the front. And it says, well, and then I said something about, let's all have some cake, and everyone got all vissy. Never party with peasants, they ruin everything. I mean, you sort of could see the, it's sort of, where do we live? Where do we live? Several years ago, I was, I was at, in line in a McDonald's, because I'm a health food fanatic, and this man in front of me, I used to tell the story, older white guy, now I say, white guy about my age, and he's ordering, and he's not trying to be condescending, but oh, this young teens to 20s girl is taking, you know, his order, and he calls her sweetie about three times during the conversation, and not punching it up or anything, almost as subtly as she could, she hands him his bag at the end, and goes, here's your food, sweetie, and he almost went over the counter, and that was disrespectful. You know, the idea that if you, I don't care what your position is, and I'm your pastor, I deserve exactly the respect I show you, no more, no less. I think when we get into, well, you know, I'm a person, I'm a person that deserves respect, you know, because of something I did years and years and years ago. I'm already in a position, I can treat you anyway I want, I should get respect back. That is the, that is the ugliest path to go down, that we deserve the respect we show people, that we start to move into what would, what would the justice of God, the equality of heaven look like? Who are the people in our lives? Who are the people in our society? Who are the people around our world whose suffering we've learned not to see, because it would disturb us in our comfort? You know, it's always there, and and there are people who talk their way out of it by saying, well, you know, I mean, a lot of those people made bad choices, and a lot of the, you can lean into that, but know the truth. Everyone in this room, there are people who have worked harder than every one of us, worked more diligently their whole life than every one of us, and will never have a fraction of what we are. You don't look like, you don't look at a child in Sierra Leone who's in the diamond mines working since the age of five, and say, well, you should have stayed in school. Pretty much where we go a lot of the time. Well, they should have, they should have, they should have. You have no idea what your story is, and we're too comfortable never knowing the story. It's why people, I always hear these people say, you know, I, I like dogs more than people. Well, of course you do. You don't expect anything, you don't expect anything of them. You know, if your spouse stayed home all day, looked excited when you came in the door, and waited for you to feed them, and then you would follow up after then and clean up their you-know-what, you would find that untenable. But with a dog, you just don't have any expectations, and because the dog doesn't talk back, you can stay with the rough draft that I always talk about and never fill in the details. My dog loves me. I know, I know because they wag their tail. Okay. But we, we get to fill in. I would just love, if I could have one miracle, I want everyone's dog to be able to talk to them for just one day. Okay. You know, we kind of do that, but we don't, you know, we, we, well, so comfortable with that inequality. Relationships based in equality are harder, and we shouldn't say to ourselves, I like, I like a dog or a cat, I like animals better than people. We like the inequality, we're in charge. Even though they don't know we're in charge, you know, I've never, you know, you, you can go on vacation even if you have to put them in daycare. And, and when we're in a relationship with one another, we have to decide whether we're going to have justice or not. And that's harder. The relationship's harder, and that's, we don't, we don't like the same. I like relationships with animals better than relationships with people, because people are hard. You know, the relationships are. They will expect more back from us, and we will expect more from them, and they will disappoint us. You know, when was the last time your dog disappointed you? And granted, that's nice. And if your dog does disappoint you, you've got the worst life I can imagine. But my dog disappoints me. So what do you do when we see a world where some people will always suffer? Do we work to change that world? When, when we get to that great flow of humanity moving into heaven, and we start to experience the lives of others, will our life have created more suffering or more joy in the street? Will our lives have brought people up or kept them down? Will we be so busy keeping our small group happy that we let large groups fall through the cracks? Who are the people we've decided, well, they don't, they don't matter. And we can come up with a million reasons why. Well, they didn't do this right. They didn't do that. They should have stayed in school. They should have, you know. We're superimposing our history on them, and then giving them different decisions. But their history is not our history. And their struggle is not our struggle. And we ask God to make us a people who don't need to be unaware of people suffering, so that we can be happy. And we, we have to become aware of it. We have to respond to it. If, if you go through your life, all this wondered and stuff, while allowing others to suffer, justice will feel like suffering to you. I have, David Deniman used to say very bluntly, he'd say, you know, there's, there's a million ways to be above, above the median line of humanity. Some people, at least they have a sense that they're very good-looking, and that's a power in the world. And some people are wealthy, and that's a power in the world. And some people are smart, and that's a power in the world. And David Deniman would always say, so if, just remember, if you're good-looking and smart, I mean, he'd say, no, he'd say, actually he was very mean about it, he'd say, if you're good-looking and dumb, you'll be smart and ugly in heaven. I mean, the journey in is to experience the humanity that we've ignored. 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The Lord WEBVTT
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The Lord be with you. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Luke. Jesus came
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down with the twelve and stood on a stretch of level ground with a great
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crowd of his disciples and a large number of the people from all Judea and
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Jerusalem and the coastal region of Tyre and Zee and raising his eyes toward his
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disciples he said, Blessed are you who are poor for the kingdom of God is yours.
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Blessed are you who are now hungry for you will be satisfied. Blessed are you
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who are now weeping for you will laugh. Blessed are you when people hate you and
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when they exclude you and insult you and denounce your name is evil on account of
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the Son of Man. Rejoice on that day for your reward will be great in heaven for
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their ancestors treated the prophets in the same way. But woe to you who are rich
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for you have received your consolation. Woe to you who are fulfilled who are
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filled now for you will be hungry. Woe to you who will laugh now for you will
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grieve and weep. Woe to you when all speak well of you for their ancestors
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treated the false prophets in this way. The Gospel of the Lord.
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I'm going to, I always say this, but I'm actually going to be brief today. I'm
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feeling horrible. Friday afternoon I had my second shingle shot. That was the
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reaction I got at the last NewsHour. It's been like, it's been like a review the
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greatest health hits of 2024. It's like every injury, every hurt I've had is the
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swelling comes back everywhere that you've had anything. And even places
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where I didn't know I had anything. But, you know, I know I'm gonna get past it
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so I know it's not, I'm not worried about it. And, you know, people keep coming up
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saying it's better than getting shingles. It's better than getting stuck in the eye
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with a stick. But, cold comfort. Last Mass I was so out of it. I got up to the
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Gospel. I said, the Lord be with me.
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One person said it also with us, which would have been tremendous. So this
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Gospel of the Sermon and Luke's, we don't even hear the praise, but Luke's is
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called the Sermon on the Plain. It's the same sermon, but Luke, where Matthew says
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Jesus leads them up onto a mountain and they all sit on the
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mountain. And you can just picture Jesus up there and he's preaching to them. Luke
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says Jesus comes down the mountain and gets them all on a level playing field
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and preaches. Because this is Luke's, this is his opening volley of what's
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going to be the thesis of his whole Gospel. It's what we call the Lucanian
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version. And it's, he hits on in the Magnificat, but you have to remember the
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Magnificat, even though when you and I open the Gospel we read it first. The
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Nativity narrative was written almost a generation later. This was closer to the
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original opening. And he says, you know, the mighty will be brought down from
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their thrones and the lowly will be lifted up. And here you have him, blessed
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are you who are poor and blessed, you know, are you who are hungry. And then
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unlike Matthew, he goes after the, and woe to you who are rich and woe to you who
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are filled. And it's not, it's not a reward-punishment thing going on. It's an
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understanding of the nature of heaven and the nature of justice. I suppose in
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modern terms we would say, woe to you who live above the median level of humanity.
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For when justice comes, it will feel like a downgrade. And blessed are you who are
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living below that medium, because when justice comes, it will feel like an
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upgrade. This is the entire Lukan Gospel, is this idea that we, we tend to, you know,
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the idea is that in the end of time as we move into heaven, we start to
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experience one another's humanity, which is why we should go out of our way to
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alleviate any suffering we can with anyone. When someone's suffering, if you're
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Christian, you respond. If you're smart, you respond. You don't even have to be
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Christian. When someone is suffering, you know, we've been, we've been trained out
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of that. You know, when a four-year-old's mother is crying, I've never heard a
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four-year-old say, get over it. Be entertaining, but never seen it. Kids, when
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someone's really crying and suffering, they are disturbed by it, and we have to
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learn to not be disturbed. It is the great elephant in the corner of
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Christianity that no one likes to talk about, because it's in the middle of our
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theology, and it's the ugliest part of our theology, and it's so ubiquitous, we
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don't notice it's there. It's just everywhere. And that is, the goal of our
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Christianity is to get to heaven. And once you're in heaven, it won't bother
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you that there are people suffering in hell. You'll be eternally happy. And I've
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heard different ways around that. I've heard, well, you know, I was taught that
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when you get to heaven, that that knowledge of hell is taken from you. Oh,
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so you don't have to know their suffering. That's just not much better, is
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it? It's almost as though we should harden ourselves to suffering now, because
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otherwise, you know, those people in hell will get in the way of our suffering. You
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know, one of my favorite birthday cards, because even though I preach
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against it, I am a great fan of dark humor, and that is, my favorite birthday
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card ever had a picture of Marie Antoinette on the front. And it says,
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well, and then I said something about, let's all have some cake, and everyone
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got all vissy. Never party with peasants, they ruin everything. I mean, you sort of
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could see the, it's sort of, where do we live? Where do we live? Several years ago,
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I was, I was at, in line in a McDonald's, because I'm a health food fanatic, and
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this man in front of me, I used to tell the story, older white guy, now I say,
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white guy about my age, and he's ordering, and he's not
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trying to be condescending, but oh, this young teens to 20s girl is taking, you
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know, his order, and he calls her sweetie about three times during the
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conversation, and not punching it up or anything, almost as subtly as she could,
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she hands him his bag at the end, and goes, here's your food, sweetie, and he almost
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went over the counter, and that was disrespectful. You know, the idea that if
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you, I don't care what your position is, and I'm your pastor, I deserve
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exactly the respect I show you, no more, no less. I think when we get into, well,
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you know, I'm a person, I'm a person that deserves respect, you know, because of
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something I did years and years and years ago. I'm already in a position, I
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can treat you anyway I want, I should get respect back. That is the, that is the
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ugliest path to go down, that we deserve the respect we show people, that we start
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to move into what would, what would the justice of God, the equality of heaven
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look like? Who are the people in our lives? Who are the people in our society?
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Who are the people around our world whose suffering we've learned not to see,
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because it would disturb us in our comfort? You know, it's always there, and
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and there are people who talk their way out of it by saying, well, you know, I mean,
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a lot of those people made bad choices, and a lot of the, you can lean into that,
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but know the truth. Everyone in this room, there are people who have worked harder
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than every one of us, worked more diligently their whole life than every
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one of us, and will never have a fraction of what we are. You don't look like, you
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don't look at a child in Sierra Leone who's in the diamond mines working since
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the age of five, and say, well, you should have stayed in school. Pretty much
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where we go a lot of the time. Well, they should have, they should have, they should have.
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You have no idea what your story is, and we're too comfortable never knowing the
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story. It's why people, I always hear these people say, you know, I, I like dogs
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more than people. Well, of course you do. You don't expect anything, you don't
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expect anything of them. You know, if your spouse stayed home all day, looked excited
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when you came in the door, and waited for you to feed them, and then you would
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follow up after then and clean up their you-know-what, you would find that
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untenable. But with a dog, you just don't have any expectations, and because the
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dog doesn't talk back, you can stay with the rough draft that I always talk about
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and never fill in the details. My dog loves me. I know, I know because they wag
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their tail. Okay. But we, we get to fill in. I would just love, if I could have one
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miracle, I want everyone's dog to be able to talk to them for just one day. Okay.
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You know, we kind of do that, but we don't, you know, we, we, well, so comfortable with
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that inequality. Relationships based in equality are harder, and we shouldn't
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say to ourselves, I like, I like a dog or a cat, I like animals better than people.
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We like the inequality, we're in charge. Even though they don't know we're in
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charge, you know, I've never, you know, you, you can go on vacation even if you have
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to put them in daycare. And, and when we're in a relationship with one another,
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we have to decide whether we're going to have justice or not. And that's harder.
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The relationship's harder, and that's, we don't, we don't like the same. I like
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relationships with animals better than relationships with people, because people
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are hard. You know, the relationships are. They will expect more back from us, and
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we will expect more from them, and they will disappoint us. You know, when was the
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last time your dog disappointed you? And granted, that's nice. And if your dog
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does disappoint you, you've got the worst life I can imagine. But my dog
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disappoints me. So what do you do when we see a world where some people will
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always suffer? Do we work to change that world? When, when we get to that great
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flow of humanity moving into heaven, and we start to experience the lives of
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others, will our life have created more suffering or more joy in the street? Will
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our lives have brought people up or kept them down? Will we be so busy keeping our
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small group happy that we let large groups fall through the cracks? Who are
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the people we've decided, well, they don't, they don't matter. And we can come
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up with a million reasons why. Well, they didn't do this right. They didn't do that.
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They should have stayed in school. They should have, you know. We're superimposing
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our history on them, and then giving them different decisions. But their history is
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not our history. And their struggle is not our struggle. And we ask God to make
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us a people who don't need to be unaware of people suffering, so that we can be
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happy. And we, we have to become aware of it. We have to respond to it. If, if you go
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through your life, all this wondered and stuff, while allowing others to suffer,
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justice will feel like suffering to you. I have, David Deniman used to say very
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bluntly, he'd say, you know, there's, there's a million ways to be above, above
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the median line of humanity. Some people, at least they have a sense that they're
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very good-looking, and that's a power in the world. And some people are wealthy,
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and that's a power in the world. And some people are smart, and that's a power in
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the world. And David Deniman would always say, so if, just remember, if you're
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good-looking and smart, I mean, he'd say, no, he'd say, actually he was very mean
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about it, he'd say, if you're good-looking and dumb, you'll be smart and ugly in
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heaven. I mean, the journey in is to experience the humanity that we've
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ignored. Who are the people we ignore now? Who are the people who's suffering we
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ignore? We need to bond with that and start our journey to heaven today, owners.
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Father Pat's homily is a powerful meditation o Father Pat's homily is a powerful meditation on the Gospel of Luke’s Sermon on the Plain, emphasizing the radical justice of the Kingdom of God and the discomfort it brings to those who benefit from inequality. He highlights the Gospel's reversal of worldly values—where the poor, the hungry, and the grieving are called blessed, while the rich, the satisfied, and the well-regarded are warned. Father Pat challenges us to examine our complicity in systems that overlook or perpetuate suffering, urging us not to shield ourselves from the pain of others but to engage with it compassionately. He calls for a deeper awareness of the humanity we've learned to ignore, pointing to a justice that lifts up the lowly and humbles the exalted—not as punishment, but as the fulfillment of divine love and balance.
In his detailed reflection, Father Pat begins by situating the Gospel reading within the broader context of Luke's theology. Unlike Matthew’s Sermon on the Mount, Luke’s “Sermon on the Plain” places Jesus on level ground with the people, symbolizing the Gospel’s core message of equality and justice. Father Pat explains that Luke’s Gospel consistently promotes a theme of reversal: the lowly are lifted, and the mighty are brought down. This isn’t about divine retribution, but about a reordering of the world in alignment with God’s justice. He paraphrases the message in modern terms: “Woe to you who live above the median line of humanity, for when justice comes, it will feel like a downgrade. Blessed are you who live below that line, for when justice comes, it will feel like an upgrade.”
He emphasizes that Christianity is not about personal comfort or turning a blind eye to suffering. Rather, it demands engagement with the pain of others. He critiques the culturally accepted behavior of hardening ourselves to the suffering of others, which is often justified by blaming the victims—e.g., “They should have stayed in school,” or “They made bad choices.” Father Pat dismantles that illusion by reminding us that many people who suffer have worked harder and endured more than we ever will. Their suffering is not due to personal failure but systemic inequality.
He also challenges how we assign respect and dignity in our relationships. The story of a man condescendingly calling a young woman “sweetie” at McDonald's and being offended when she uses it back illustrates the transactional and hierarchical nature of how we often treat others. Father Pat stresses that we deserve only as much respect as we give. Our relationships, he says, should be based in equality and mutual dignity—not entitlement. This applies not only to personal interactions but to societal structures as well.
He critiques the common sentiment, “I like dogs better than people,” as a reflection of our desire for one-sided, uncomplicated relationships where we remain in power. Dogs, unlike people, don't challenge us, contradict us, or require us to grow. But real human relationships are difficult precisely because they involve mutual expectations and vulnerability. By preferring animals over people, we often reveal our discomfort with the messiness and demands of human equality.
Father Pat then turns to the theology of heaven and hell, pointing out what he calls “the elephant in the room” of Christian doctrine: the idea that those in heaven will be perfectly happy even while others suffer in hell. He finds this deeply troubling and calls for a spirituality that is not based on ignorance of others’ pain but on full awareness and compassionate response. He suggests that our goal should be not to sanitize suffering out of our spiritual consciousness, but to allow it to shape how we live and love now.
He closes with a profound challenge: When we move toward heaven, will we be ready to experience the fullness of others’ humanity? Will our lives have contributed to joy or to suffering? Will we be the ones who lifted others up or who ignored their pain? He warns that if we have lived our lives benefiting from injustice, then divine justice may feel like suffering to us—not because God is cruel, but because we have grown too comfortable with inequality.
Ultimately, Father Pat calls us to begin living the justice of heaven now—by seeing, acknowledging, and responding to the suffering of others. He invites us to participate in God's work of lifting up the lowly, not out of guilt or obligation, but out of a deep recognition of shared humanity and divine love....
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{"task": "transcribe", "langua {"task": "transcribe", "language": "english", "duration": 1190.0, "text": "with you, sir. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Luke. Each year Jesus' parents went to Jerusalem for the Feast of the Passover and when he was 12 years old they went up according to the festival custom. After they had completed its days, as they were returning, the boy Jesus remained behind in Jerusalem but his parents did not know it. Thinking that he was in the caravan, they journeyed for a day and looking for him among their relatives and acquaintances, but not finding him, they returned to Jerusalem to look for him. After three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions, and all who heard him were astounded at his understanding and his answers. When his parents saw him, they were astonished, and his mother said to him, Son, why have you done this to us? Your father and I have been looking for you with great anxiety. And he said to them, Why are you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my father's house? But they did not understand what he said to them. He went down with them and came to Nazareth and was obedient to them, and his mother kept all these things in her heart. And Jesus advanced in wisdom and age and favor before God and man. The Gospel of the Lord. The gospel commentator William Barclay has always referred to Luke as the most beautiful of the Gospels. I mean, he kind of, everything, where Matthew has Jesus on the cross cry out, Why have you abandoned me? Luke has him look down and say, Forgive them. They know not what they do. I mean, all of the ugly is moved out of Luke's gospel. I refer to it as the stained glass window gospel. It doesn't say anything the others don't, for the most part, but it's, you know, in the midst of doing everything else, he needs the story to look pretty, and he doesn't want Jesus looking too human. Matthew almost goes the other way. Jesus looks so human sometimes he missed that he's also God. But this is one of those moments, the beautiful holy family. You know, Jesus has been missing for 24 hours before they even notice. They spend three days looking for him, and if this were a modern story, they would find him in the custody of Child Protective Services, you know, but it's not a modern story. And his mother, who, I mean, you just imagine, they've left him, the town is overrun because it's census time. It's the time when, not the census, it's the time when they all go out for the festivities, and it would have been a huge celebration, and they're traveling in caravan, and after one day he's been missing, they realize it, and then they search for three more days, and when she finally finds him, she says, your father and I have been looking for you with great anxiety. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's not really what she said. And it comes off like she showed up and they started a very pleasant theological conversation. You know, it gets cleaned up a little. Now, there are some things we should understand. Number one, we have no idea, if this is a literal story, the timing is certainly all thrown off. I mean, Luke is making the point. If you were to go back up to what we would call Holy Thursday, Jesus is taken from their midst, and one day later they see him again, but he's now on the cross, and then he's gone for three days, and then he's returned to them in the resurrection. And interestingly enough, the numerology of this is it's a day before they realize he's missing, and three days before they find him again. He's foreshadowing some later stuff. But also, the reality of the story is it starts out with a little clue that you and I would think of as the most innocuous line in scripture. And when he was 12 years old, this is the year of his Bar Mitzvah, and it says, and they go for the festivities. It was very common that he would go to the great festivities in Jerusalem, and he would have his Bar Mitzvah with a lot of other people doing Bar Mitzvahs. So this is the year. Now, in these caravans, when they would travel to keep the women and children safe, the men traveled towards the edge of the caravan, and the women and children were in the middle. And when you've just made your Bar Mitzvah, it's that year where you stop traveling with the women and start traveling with the men, usually. But it's a year where, oh, some of them might stick around with the other kids and play in the middle, and others will travel with the men. It's their first time traveling with the men. And so it's very understandable if, you know, Mary and Joseph assumed that it says, and they started looking for him among their relatives. Well, you know, it's Bar Mitzvah, so he's here somewhere. And then they realize that he's not, and they travel back. It's that moment. What I love is it's, even though Luke tries to clean it up, you read it and you go, oh yeah, that's family. I did things like that when I was 12. And until the day she died, my mother held them in her heart. I always wonder, how are we supposed to read that? And Mary kept all these things in her heart. We all wrote, isn't that lovely? I don't know. You know, in my culture, we have a thing called Irish Alzheimer's, where you forget everything but the bitterness. It's this idea, and so you think, well, you know, this story has hints of a real human family. If you look to these things, you will start to see, and I've done it before, we can pull out things from Joseph and Mary, and they apply to the adult life of Jesus. It's very human. Jesus doesn't just become human physically. He becomes human socially. He is formed by humanity, and he has a family, and he has a hometown, and he has a home culture. He has his own tribe. He, you know, all of the things that are part of being human, you and I, if he's going to become human, he's going to have to, you know, have certain things in place. And it doesn't mean that, oh, well, that culture was better. No, it means God has to pick a culture, and those of us who use the image of family to draw divisions will say, well, this family and that family, this is better and that's better. We kind of paint God into a corner. If Jesus is male, it must mean that men are more in the image of God. Our own churches, at times, propose that. You know, every church does this once in a while, because, well, what was his choice? Well, then, Jesus should have come and been female, and then they would be more in the image of God. You know, what do you do when we, if someone's going to be human, they are going to be of one culture, they are going to be gendered in a particular way, they are going to be raised in a particular way, they are going to have particular ideas, and if they're God, they are universal. And we tend to, instead of realizing that humanity is what we connect to to get us to the God, we want to connect to the God and bring it back into that human limitedness. We don't want to use the small picture to get us to something bigger. We like the small. And so, we have this wonderful vision of family. You know, I think an even funnier one, though, a vision of family. I love this line of Samuel. And every time I'm thinking, there's no one, I mean, this is like, there are comics that can't come up with this stuff. She gets, you know, the whole story is not here, but, you know, she goes to the church, and the priestly, she's drunk because she's crying, and he blesses her, she's going to have a child. I pray for this child, and the Lord granted my request. Now I'm giving him back to the Lord. A lot of mothers have gotten to that point. I mean, I just sort of love that. It's like, here we are, it's a week after Christmas, and we get the story of a returned gift. Thank you, I have weaned him. This is enough. You know, we get this sense of what it means to really accept that we've all been brought up in families. And I think, you know, until you're a young adult, your family is normal, no matter what it is. Then we go through a period of realizing there's a lot in our family that's a mess. And hopefully, by the time we get to our 40s, we start to realize the gifts that came from our family. It takes a little longer, you know, part of getting our independence and needing to distance ourselves is to start to lean in to the differences. And then we start to realize, you know, I look back, and I can tell all the stories of difference in my family that I knew by the time I was 30. It really wasn't until I was in my 40s that I started to reflect upon the fact that my love of music, my love of language, both came from my dad. My love of cooking came from my mom. My ability to feel, you know, kind of like my ability to be competent, very much came from both parents. The love of, you know, there's all this stuff I got for free, you know. I survived hunger for many years because food just kept showing up at the table. So, you know, our families do not become the people in the end that think like us and agree with us. If you had a large enough family, you know, some do, some don't. Family, no one that I know would say, well, family are the people you never fight with. Oh, you need to know more Irish people. Family are the people we fight with and we're still family the next day. And that's the difference. We are called to start to, oh, we're called to be family with people we don't agree with. We're called to be the family with people who think differently. We're supposed to be able to disagree and still, see, we're still family. It may take the child years to forgive me, but, you know, I mean, these things, we just have this sort of idea that somehow we've got this false idea of family. Family, they're mine and that's that's my tribe. And when we're really honest, there's a lot of things we disagree with. We're just better to family. If we, if we're driving down the road and someone's holding up a sign and they need food and we take a second look and realize it's one of our aunts, we would probably behave a little differently. Why? Oh, because family matters. I've always had a love hate relationship with that phrase because I think family does matter. But when family matters more than everyone else in the world, how many times you see on, on, on television or in depictions that, you know, one of the greatest things a person, the greatest sins a person can commit is they were, they were so busy out helping the world that they didn't pay enough attention to their family. I think that's a real challenging thought, you know, I mean, because that's Jesus. That is Jesus in a nutshell. His family comes visiting when he's an adult. They say, your family's here. And they'll say, what do you think my family is? You can imagine how that went over. They held these things in their heart. You know, that idea, Jesus, I am sure that Jesus did not spend enough time with his family because he was out saving other people. I was, uh, you know, when I was at Fort Carson Middle Theater years ago at a community production, well, the director there was, he was a little off balance and I guess his daughter had come into the office and she was holding her hand like it was hurt. And he goes, what's the matter? And she said some name, the name she said was not someone who had hurt her, but he went into high father mode and he went out there and it took people to hold him back. He was going to just destroy this person. And later on, he never apologized because his excuse was, well, I thought my daughter had been attacked. And finish the sentence. And therefore no one has any human rights anymore. Because I thought one of mine had been attacked. You know, not only was he going off, you know, flying off a handle and it wasn't an attack, you know, it was something totally different. But I think we knew that if I only care about me, that's selfish. But if I only care about my family, that's honorable. Is it? Is it? That now, if it's my family, my family counts the most. You know, this, this starts as families, it becomes tribes, it becomes nations. You know, when there's a war, it's, you know, every, every person on your side that's lost is a tragedy and every person on their side gets lost, it's collateral damage. Because my side matters more. And that is the least holy family in all of creation. It is the family that creates a boundary for us of who matters and who doesn't. And so it said, we come today and we think, who, what are we supposed to do with all of this? Because psychologically, there'll always be people you are closer to, people who you are emotionally more connected to. There'll always be people that it's easier to want to help. And there's always those people who call and you just want to respond. And there are always those people who call and you think, I mean, I've never done it, but I've read books. You know, there's that, there's that idea of why, why do we think, can we get there? Do we want to care about everyone? We, we will never psychologically get to the point where everyone evokes the same response out of us. I think that's beyond our psychology, but we can use the people who evoke the best response out of us as a template for how we are to treat others regardless of how we're feeling. What would I do if this was family? I have told you the story before of riding down the road, one lane, someone in a car in front of me, with the gall to go under the speed limit when I am behind them. And I, I was actually, I was very patient for 30 seconds. And finally, finally, we're to where there's two lanes. And I think there is nothing wrong with going, okay, good, I'm going to go this mean limit and get around them. But it never stops there. You have to do this. You have to make the face, you have to look over, you have to let them know that they have disappointed the stranger in the car. And as I look over, it's John Kai, who is my oldest friend in the world. And as I'm, I go, I thought that was you. And now I'm waving and I'm missing my sky. And what haunted me about that story later on was, so what happened to all these other people? So what happened to all the anger? What happened to all the righteous outrage? Oh, it was someone who mattered. I had to sit with that room for a long while. We do it. Why are we ready to be angry at some people? It doesn't even matter. You know, we have, I always say it only don't matter to us if their situation doesn't speak to us. I always think it's interesting, not to draw attention to it, but you know, people have such different reactions when children cry in church. It's disturbing the mass, isn't it? Only when we decide it is. Only when we decide it is. I mean, no one has ever come up to me and said, you know, some of the older people move too slowly in the communion line. Why? Does that have to do with liturgy? Well, because that's still ahead of us. That still speaks to me. That's me five-year-old who am I kidding? That's me now. But my childhood is behind me, that's for the most part. And so why is those children not behaving like they're 40? I don't know. Why are people in their 90s not behaving like they're 40? Because if we're going to invite everyone in, we're going to invite their cultures in. You know, we want young people at mass, but as long as they will pray like old people. And you need to be quiet, they need to hold their hands, you know. We don't invite people in their wholeness, like this story, with their flaws, with their gifts. Invite who they are, because anything less is showmanship. You know, that's just PR for the world. So we ask God to make us a family and say, let me know who are the people I care most about in the world. How would I treat them in any given situation and make that my template for how I treat others. I kind of have to, in this day and age, I dismiss this. Treat people the way you would treat yourself, because some of us treat ourselves horribly. Treat people the way you would treat your best friend, your most beloved relative, your child. Treat people the way you would treat people who mean the most to you. And if you can't, you have to ask yourself, when did I start drawing the line of who matters and who doesn't? Because the only truly holy family is not, we have an example of the holy family in Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. But in the end, the real holy family is the family that contains every last member of our human race.", "segments": [{"id": 0, "seek": 0, "start": 0.0, "end": 9.84000015258789, "text": " with you, sir. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Luke. 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with you, WEBVTT
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with you, sir. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Luke. Each year Jesus' parents went
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to Jerusalem for the Feast of the Passover and when he was 12 years old they went up according
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to the festival custom. After they had completed its days, as they were returning, the boy Jesus
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remained behind in Jerusalem but his parents did not know it. Thinking that he was in the caravan,
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they journeyed for a day and looking for him among their relatives and acquaintances,
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but not finding him, they returned to Jerusalem to look for him. After three days they found him in
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the temple, sitting in the midst of the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions,
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and all who heard him were astounded at his understanding and his answers.
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When his parents saw him, they were astonished, and his mother said to him,
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Son, why have you done this to us? Your father and I have been looking for you with great anxiety.
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And he said to them, Why are you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my father's
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house? But they did not understand what he said to them. He went down with them and came to Nazareth
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and was obedient to them, and his mother kept all these things in her heart.
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And Jesus advanced in wisdom and age and favor before God and man. The Gospel of the Lord.
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The gospel commentator William Barclay has always referred to Luke as the most beautiful of the
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Gospels. I mean, he kind of, everything, where Matthew has Jesus on the cross cry out, Why have
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you abandoned me? Luke has him look down and say, Forgive them. They know not what they do.
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I mean, all of the ugly is moved out of Luke's gospel. I refer to it as the stained glass window
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gospel. It doesn't say anything the others don't, for the most part, but it's, you know,
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in the midst of doing everything else, he needs the story to look pretty, and he doesn't want
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Jesus looking too human. Matthew almost goes the other way. Jesus looks so human sometimes
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he missed that he's also God. But this is one of those moments, the beautiful
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holy family. You know, Jesus has been missing for 24 hours before they even notice.
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They spend three days looking for him, and if this were a modern story,
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they would find him in the custody of Child Protective Services, you know, but it's not a
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modern story. And his mother, who, I mean, you just imagine, they've left him, the town is overrun
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because it's census time. It's the time when, not the census, it's the time when they all go out
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for the festivities, and it would have been a huge celebration, and they're traveling in caravan,
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and after one day he's been missing, they realize it, and then they search for three more days,
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and when she finally finds him, she says, your father and I have been looking for you
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with great anxiety. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's not really what she said.
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And it comes off like she showed up and they started a very pleasant theological conversation.
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You know, it gets cleaned up a little. Now, there are some things we should understand.
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Number one, we have no idea, if this is a literal story, the timing is certainly all thrown off.
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I mean, Luke is making the point. If you were to go back up to what we would call Holy Thursday,
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Jesus is taken from their midst, and one day later they see him again, but he's now on the cross,
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and then he's gone for three days, and then he's returned to them in the resurrection. And
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interestingly enough, the numerology of this is it's a day before they realize he's missing, and
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three days before they find him again. He's foreshadowing some later stuff.
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But also, the reality of the story is it starts out with a little clue that you and I would think
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of as the most innocuous line in scripture. And when he was 12 years old, this is the year of
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his Bar Mitzvah, and it says, and they go for the festivities. It was very common that he would go
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to the great festivities in Jerusalem, and he would have his Bar Mitzvah with a lot of other
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people doing Bar Mitzvahs. So this is the year. Now, in these caravans, when they would travel
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to keep the women and children safe, the men traveled towards the edge of the caravan,
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and the women and children were in the middle. And when you've just made your Bar Mitzvah,
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it's that year where you stop traveling with the women and start traveling with the men,
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usually. But it's a year where, oh, some of them might stick around with the other kids and play
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in the middle, and others will travel with the men. It's their first time traveling with the men.
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And so it's very understandable if, you know, Mary and Joseph assumed that it says, and they
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started looking for him among their relatives. Well, you know, it's Bar Mitzvah, so he's here
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somewhere. And then they realize that he's not, and they travel back. It's that moment.
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What I love is it's, even though Luke tries to clean it up, you read it and you go, oh yeah,
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that's family. I did things like that when I was 12. And until the day she died, my mother held
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them in her heart. I always wonder, how are we supposed to read that? And Mary kept all these
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things in her heart. We all wrote, isn't that lovely? I don't know. You know, in my culture,
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we have a thing called Irish Alzheimer's, where you forget everything but the bitterness.
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It's this idea, and so you think, well, you know, this story has hints of a real human family.
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If you look to these things, you will start to see, and I've done it before, we can
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pull out things from Joseph and Mary, and they apply to the adult life of Jesus.
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It's very human. Jesus doesn't just become human physically. He becomes human socially.
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He is formed by humanity, and he has a family, and he has a hometown, and he has a home culture.
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He has his own tribe. He, you know, all of the things that are part of being human,
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you and I, if he's going to become human, he's going to have to, you know, have certain things
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in place. And it doesn't mean that, oh, well, that culture was better. No, it means God has
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to pick a culture, and those of us who use the image of family to draw divisions will say, well,
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this family and that family, this is better and that's better. We kind of paint God into a corner.
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If Jesus is male, it must mean that men are more in the image of God.
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Our own churches, at times, propose that.
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You know, every church does this once in a while, because, well, what was his choice? Well, then,
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Jesus should have come and been female, and then they would be more in the image of God.
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You know, what do you do when we, if someone's going to be human, they are going to be of one
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culture, they are going to be gendered in a particular way, they are going to be raised in a
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particular way, they are going to have particular ideas, and if they're God, they are universal.
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And we tend to, instead of realizing that humanity is what we connect to to get us to the God,
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we want to connect to the God and bring it back into that human limitedness.
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We don't want to use the small picture to get us to something bigger. We like the small.
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And so, we have this wonderful vision of family. You know, I think an even funnier one, though,
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a vision of family. I love this line of Samuel. And every time I'm thinking, there's no one,
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I mean, this is like, there are comics that can't come up with this stuff.
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She gets, you know, the whole story is not here, but, you know, she goes to the church,
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and the priestly, she's drunk because she's crying, and he blesses her, she's going to have a child.
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I pray for this child, and the Lord granted my request. Now I'm giving him back to the Lord.
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A lot of mothers have gotten to that point. I mean, I just sort of love that. It's like,
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here we are, it's a week after Christmas, and we get the story of a returned gift.
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Thank you, I have weaned him. This is enough.
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You know, we get this sense of what it means to really accept that we've all been brought up in
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families. And I think, you know, until you're a young adult, your family is normal, no matter
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what it is. Then we go through a period of realizing there's a lot in our family that's
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a mess. And hopefully, by the time we get to our 40s, we start to realize the gifts
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that came from our family. It takes a little longer, you know, part of getting our independence
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and needing to distance ourselves is to start to lean in to the differences. And then we start to
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realize, you know, I look back, and I can tell all the stories of difference in my family that
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I knew by the time I was 30. It really wasn't until I was in my 40s that I started to reflect
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upon the fact that my love of music, my love of language, both came from my dad. My love of
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cooking came from my mom. My ability to feel, you know, kind of like my ability to be competent,
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very much came from both parents. The love of, you know, there's all this stuff I got
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for free, you know. I survived hunger for many years because food just kept showing up at the table.
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So, you know, our families do not become the people in the end that think like us and agree
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with us. If you had a large enough family, you know, some do, some don't. Family, no one that I
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know would say, well, family are the people you never fight with.
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Oh, you need to know more Irish people.
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Family are the people we fight with and we're still family the next day.
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And that's the difference. We are called to start to, oh, we're called to be family with people
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we don't agree with. We're called to be the family with people who think differently.
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We're supposed to be able to disagree and still, see, we're still family.
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It may take the child years to forgive me, but, you know, I mean, these things, we just have this
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sort of idea that somehow we've got this false idea of family. Family, they're mine and that's
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that's my tribe. And when we're really honest, there's a lot of things we disagree with.
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We're just better to family. If we, if we're driving down the road and someone's holding up
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a sign and they need food and we take a second look and realize it's one of our aunts, we would
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probably behave a little differently. Why? Oh, because family matters. I've always
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had a love hate relationship with that phrase because I think family does matter.
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But when family matters more than everyone else in the world, how many times you see on, on,
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on television or in depictions that, you know, one of the greatest things a person, the greatest
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sins a person can commit is they were, they were so busy out helping the world that they didn't
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pay enough attention to their family. I think that's a real challenging thought, you know,
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I mean, because that's Jesus. That is Jesus in a nutshell. His family comes visiting when
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he's an adult. They say, your family's here. And they'll say, what do you think my family is?
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You can imagine how that went over. They held these things in their heart.
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You know, that idea, Jesus, I am sure that Jesus did not spend enough time with his family because
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he was out saving other people. I was, uh, you know, when I was at Fort Carson Middle Theater
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years ago at a community production, well, the director there was, he was a little off balance
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and I guess his daughter had come into the office and she was holding her hand like it was hurt.
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And he goes, what's the matter? And she said some name, the name she said was not someone who had
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hurt her, but he went into high father mode and he went out there and it took people to hold him
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back. He was going to just destroy this person. And later on, he never apologized because his
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excuse was, well, I thought my daughter had been attacked.
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And finish the sentence. And therefore no one has any human rights anymore.
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Because I thought one of mine had been attacked.
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You know, not only was he going off, you know, flying off a handle and it wasn't an attack,
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you know, it was something totally different. But I think we knew that if I only care about me,
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that's selfish. But if I only care about my family, that's honorable. Is it? Is it?
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That now, if it's my family, my family counts the most. You know, this, this starts as families,
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it becomes tribes, it becomes nations. You know, when there's a war, it's, you know, every,
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every person on your side that's lost is a tragedy and every person on their side gets
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lost, it's collateral damage. Because my side matters more. And that is the least holy family
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in all of creation. It is the family that creates a boundary for us of who matters and who doesn't.
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And so it said, we come today and we think, who, what are we supposed to do with all of this?
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Because psychologically, there'll always be people you are closer to, people who you are
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emotionally more connected to. There'll always be people that it's easier to want to help.
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And there's always those people who call and you just want to respond.
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And there are always those people who call and you think, I mean, I've never done it,
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but I've read books. You know, there's that, there's that idea of why, why do we think,
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can we get there? Do we want to care about everyone? We, we will never psychologically
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get to the point where everyone evokes the same response out of us. I think that's beyond our
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psychology, but we can use the people who evoke the best response out of us as a template for
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how we are to treat others regardless of how we're feeling. What would I do if this was family?
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I have told you the story before of riding down the road, one lane, someone in a car in front of me,
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with the gall to go under the speed limit when I am behind them. And I, I was actually,
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I was very patient for 30 seconds. And finally, finally, we're to where there's two lanes.
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And I think there is nothing wrong with going, okay, good, I'm going to go this
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mean limit and get around them. But it never stops there. You have to do this.
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You have to make the face, you have to look over, you have to let them know that they have
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disappointed the stranger in the car. And as I look over, it's John Kai, who is my oldest friend
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in the world. And as I'm, I go, I thought that was you. And now I'm waving and I'm missing my sky.
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And what haunted me about that story later on was, so what happened to all these other people?
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So what happened to all the anger? What happened to all the righteous outrage?
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Oh, it was someone who mattered.
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I had to sit with that room for a long while.
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We do it. Why are we ready to be angry at some people? It doesn't even matter.
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You know, we have, I always say it only don't matter to us if their situation doesn't speak to
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us. I always think it's interesting, not to draw attention to it, but you know,
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people have such different reactions when children cry in church.
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It's disturbing the mass, isn't it? Only when we decide it is. Only when we decide it is. I mean,
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no one has ever come up to me and said, you know, some of the older people move too slowly
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in the communion line. Why? Does that have to do with liturgy? Well, because that's still ahead
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of us. That still speaks to me. That's me five-year-old who am I kidding? That's me now.
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But my childhood is behind me, that's for the most part.
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And so why is those children not behaving like they're 40? I don't know.
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Why are people in their 90s not behaving like they're 40?
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Because if we're going to invite everyone in, we're going to invite their cultures in.
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You know, we want young people at mass, but as long as they will pray like old people.
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And you need to be quiet, they need to hold their hands, you know.
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We don't invite people in their wholeness, like this story, with their flaws, with their gifts.
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Invite who they are, because anything less is showmanship.
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You know, that's just PR for the world. So we ask God to make us a family and say,
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let me know who are the people I care most about in the world.
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How would I treat them in any given situation and make that my template for how I treat others.
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I kind of have to, in this day and age, I dismiss this. Treat people the way you would treat
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yourself, because some of us treat ourselves horribly. Treat people the way you would treat
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your best friend, your most beloved relative, your child. Treat people the way you would treat
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people who mean the most to you. And if you can't, you have to ask yourself, when did I start
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drawing the line of who matters and who doesn't? Because the only truly holy family is not,
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we have an example of the holy family in Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. But in the end,
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the real holy family is the family that contains every last member of our human race.
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Father Pat’s message invites us to reflect on the Father Pat’s message invites us to reflect on the humanity of Jesus and the deep imperfections and beauty of family life. Drawing from Luke’s Gospel, he emphasizes that the story of the young Jesus remaining in the temple is not only a foreshadowing of the Passion and Resurrection, but also a deeply human moment—one in which divine mystery meets the anxiety of a mother, the confusion of parents, and the developing awareness of a child stepping into his identity. Father Pat calls us to expand our understanding of “family”—not as a boundary of blood or tribe, but as a universal call to love. He challenges the tendency to prioritize our own over others, asking us to use the love we have for those closest to us as a template for how we treat all people. Ultimately, the only truly holy family is the one that embraces the full human race.
This homily weaves together theology, scripture, and human experience with gentle humor and deep insight. Father Pat begins by unpacking the Gospel of Luke's account of the adolescent Jesus staying behind in the temple during the Passover pilgrimage. He notes that Luke’s Gospel, often described as the most aesthetically refined and emotionally resonant of the four, tends to clean up the rough edges of Jesus’ humanity. In contrast to Matthew, who emphasizes the suffering and abandonment of Christ, Luke presents a more composed, almost serene Jesus. Yet, even within this “stained glass window” account, the story reveals a very human family dynamic: a child missing for three days, parental panic and frustration, and a cryptic response from the child that leaves the parents bewildered. Father Pat urges us not to sanitize the story into a placid theological tableau but to see the very real emotions and social context at play.
He points out the culturally significant detail that Jesus is twelve—the age of Bar Mitzvah—marking his transition into religious adulthood. This provides one explanation for the misunderstanding: Mary may have assumed Jesus was with Joseph among the men, while Joseph assumed he was still with the women and children. This moment becomes a metaphor for Jesus straddling two worlds: the human and divine, childhood and adulthood, obedience and mission.
Father Pat then reflects on Mary’s famous response: “Your father and I have been looking for you with great anxiety.” He questions whether this line, as presented, captures the full emotional weight of a mother searching for her lost child for three days. He also questions the phrase, “And Mary kept all these things in her heart,” suggesting that it might not be only a gentle meditation but perhaps also a lingering hurt, confusion, or unresolved tension. In doing so, he invites us to consider the real emotional cost and complexity of family relationships.
Diving deeper into themes of family, Father Pat challenges the romanticization or idolization of the nuclear family. He uses humor and personal anecdotes to expose how we often reserve our compassion, patience, and moral clarity for those we consider “ours.” He recounts stories of road rage that evaporates when the offending driver turns out to be an old friend, and how the crying of children in Mass seems disruptive only when we decide it is. These examples highlight the selective nature of our empathy, and Father Pat asks us to confront the uncomfortable truth: we often treat strangers with far less dignity than we afford to our own kin.
He critiques the cultural and religious tendency to elevate family above all else, pointing out that Jesus himself did not prioritize his biological family over his mission. When told that his mother and brothers were outside waiting for him, Jesus responded, “Who is my mother? Who are my brothers?”—a radical statement that redefined family not by blood, but by shared commitment to God’s will. Father Pat connects this to contemporary issues, where loyalty to family or nation can be used to justify the exclusion or dehumanization of others.
Instead of drawing the line around who matters and who doesn’t, Father Pat encourages us to expand our circle of care. Recognizing that we will never feel the same emotional connection to everyone, he suggests a spiritual discipline: use the love we naturally feel for our closest loved ones as a model for how to treat others. If we cannot summon the same affection or patience for a stranger, we can still act with the same dignity and care that we would offer to someone we love deeply.
He emphasizes that to be human is to be formed by culture, gender, family, and community. But to be divine, as Jesus was, is to transcend those boundaries without rejecting them. Jesus did not come as a disembodied universal ideal; he came as a particular person in a particular time and place. Yet that particularity was the vehicle for a universal message. We are not called to erase difference but to embrace the humanity of others as the path to encountering the divine.
Ultimately, Father Pat concludes that the real Holy Family is not just Jesus, Mary, and Joseph—it is the inclusive family of all humanity. The call of the Gospel is not only to honor our immediate family but to extend the same love, patience, and belonging to all people. This is the holiness we are invited into: a radical, inclusive love that mirrors the heart of God....
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{"task": "transcribe", "langua {"task": "transcribe", "language": "english", "duration": 918.1699829101562, "text": "The Lord be with you. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Mark. The apostles gathered together with Jesus and reported all they had done and taught. He said to them, Come away by yourselves to a deserted place and rest a while. People were coming and going in great numbers, and they had no opportunity even to eat. So they went off in the boat by themselves to a deserted place. People saw them leaving, and many came to know about it. They hastened there on foot from all the towns and arrived at the place before them. When he disembarked and saw the vast crowd, his heart was moved with pity for them, for they were like sheep without a shepherd. And he began to teach them many things. The Gospel of the Lord. Well in some ways today's gospel is every pastor's worst nightmare. You know, you need some time to yourself. You've had it up to here, you're ready for burnout, you get away and you show up at a nice secluded place and the parish is there. So that's kind of what it sounds like. And yet there's this moment where, you know, Jesus has the decision to do one of the two pastoral responses, either to scream at the top of his lungs, It's my day off. Or recognize the needs in front of him. I think all of us have vocations, hopefully in life, and sometimes they coincide with your careers, and sometimes your vocation and your career are very much different. Sometimes they even collide. But the idea of a vocation usually means it's what's being called from you. It's not what you decide to do. This happens in churches all the time. It can be any ministry. It can be something from a volunteer position that works with the poor to someone who reads at church to anything where someone goes, this is my ministry and I have a right to it. No, no, the needs are called forth by the community. And it's not that this is mine and I have a right to it. No, it's that if the community has the need, you can fulfill that need. But I think sometimes people go through life thinking, well, this is my gift and they will need it whether they like it or not. And that just doesn't work. And so we get this where Jesus today at that moment, I've no doubt he would have preferred, he says, don't come away and rest. It was the first, it was the beginning of the self-care movement and it didn't work. People showed up. And so he kind of rolls up his sleeves and responds to the needs around him. What the question we have to deal with before we can pull that into the other two readings is when we hit that point, what is it in life that exhausts us? Not what taxes us, not what asks for energy, life, all of life, every relationship you have will ask for some energy from you. It always takes some effort. Any energy that doesn't, I mean, any relationship that doesn't inconvenience you once in a while is not a relationship. It's a delusion. You've just projected yourself onto another person. If you're really in relationship, it will inconvenience you. Their needs will not keep sync with your energy. There will be days you have no energy and they need it all. And that will just happen once in a while. For those of you that don't believe it, have children. I guarantee you their energy will kick in about the moment yours is going down the hill at night. They won't be in sync with you. No one is. And I think we forget that. I think that there are people who themselves will admit that between the ages of 18 and 35, maybe their faith was not as important to them. And something happens. Often it's their own children, having children. All of a sudden they go through a conversion and their faith becomes important to them and they cannot believe that the world has not converted at the same moment. Ten years down the road, they can't believe that their children, who are 18, aren't going to church. You know, because they had that moment, they're here now. Why did the world not keep pace with them? You know, we all do that. We can't figure out why the world doesn't keep pace with us. And that's exhausting. That goes beyond taxing. Certainly, beyond simple things like that, we get into global politics and economics and all of these opinions where we have become a society that no longer knows how to disagree with one another. I mean, I keep wondering when, and we can call it left or right. We can call it Democrat, Republican. We can call it conservative, liberal, whatever it is. Do you ever think we'll finally get exhausted hating each other? Do you think the amount of hate that we throw out towards one another, we'll ever just get tired of it and be okay? Not. Well, if we don't want to hate each other, you know, I always hear people, we've got to compromise. Like, if we could all just get to the middle and think alike, that will never happen. What we have to learn is we will never agree and we don't have to hate each other. We actually have to include each other. I mean, I have a family with whom I have not agreed with anything since the day I was born. My mother swears I was born with a pamphlet in my hand trying to lower the fetal rate to five months just to have something to argue about. You know, it doesn't mean we, and to this day, we actually all get along. It's interesting when family said, you know, after that last election, you know, I can't talk to them anymore. I was always like, you mean before that you agreed on everything? No, but it was minor enough that I could delude myself. Now they were big issues. I could no longer hang on the delusion that we agreed. Rather than, we weren't called to agree. If God called humanity to be in perfect agreement, he should have stopped at Adam. Not because of Eve, don't go there. Because of all of the rest of creation. Shouldn't have made the animals, shouldn't have made Eve, shouldn't have made other people. And let's face it, if you read that story, there are other people in the story that have nothing to do with Adam and Eve. Where did they come from? Leave them all. We have Adam and no one will fight. No one will be upset with one another. Everyone will think the same. It will just be Adam. That was not God's vision for creation. Union and unity are not the same thing. Unity is everyone's the same. Union means different things come together. Not different things become the same, different things come together. So Jesus has this moment where he's got to figure out, just like everyone else, what is it that's exhausting me? What is it that's just taxing me? And he looks at all these people who aren't in sync with him because they're wanting a day of teaching. They're needing something and he's wanting peace and quiet. So they're out of sync with him and he adjusts. In the opening reading we hear that, you know, there's this condemnation of those who scatter. How do we scatter people? We scatter by dividing up and saying, if you don't agree with me, get out. If you don't agree, go over there. We're going to divide. Nowadays we're putting it, and I think it's just lovely, pretty language now. You see, especially politically in the United States, they talk about everyone because of the internet. They're just in their own bubble. They're in their own bubble. It's so pretty. It sounds like little kids playing with soap bubbles. It's so much nicer than saying no one knows how to handle anyone that doesn't think the way they do. You know, we just, nope, just stay in my bubble and I will pretend that most of the world agrees with me and there's not a bunch of different opinions out there. And we think, and all we do is we scatter. Exclusivity in the church, you know, through the Middle Ages, scattering that we hear in the Old Testament became excommunicating people. If that isn't scattering the flock, what is? You know, that's, that is the wrong approach. The wrong approach is to say, you know, if someone here disagrees with me, all I have to do is get them out of the parish and my workload is lightened that much anyway. If I can get enough of you to disagree with me, they'll be parking at Christmas. Get them out. You know, it lightens your workload. It lightens that effort in life if I can just ignore anyone that doesn't keep sync with my journey. But it's not what we're called to do. Even Paul says today in his letter to the Ephesians that Jesus came and he did two things. One we get, the other we pretend we get but we don't get, which is he says, to those of you that are near, and he's not talking geographically, he's talking philosophically and religiously and theologically, to those of you who are near, peace. To those of you who are not near, he preached peace. This is why Pope Francis has said, get rid of the culture wars. Quit investing in the culture wars, which are, to those who are with us, we say peace. To those who disagree, we say war. It's not what the scripture says. Scripture says, to those who disagree with us, peace. It's okay to disagree. I think the reason we get exhausted is because we are so in the habit of getting into the language, we hear the rhetoric nowadays, the public displays of just hateful language that have become normative. And we kind of think, oh, when we disagree with people, we hate them. And therefore, if we disagree with them, they will hate us and we don't want to be hated. So then we start to kind of not be who we really are so that we can be liked rather than be who we are and disagreed with. We just don't trust that process to be who we truly are. And some will disagree with us, but they don't have to hate us unless we believe too in that model that disagreement and hating one another is the same thing. I think most of us have had the experience. I mentioned last week, and I got some very interesting comments from people, which is why I don't mind mentioning it again, that I do believe there are a lot of married couples who love one another, even though God put them on earth to cancel out each other's vote. And they do it so consistently. And that doesn't mean that one of them doesn't love the other. It means they disagree. You know, when one person says, oh, I worry about the salvation of the soul of my spouse because I don't know, they belong to another faith or they're in a different spot in their journey. The problem with that is they've got all these reasons that this is what they have to do to be saved. I mean, unless they really think their spouse is a bad person, oh, no, they're a good person. I just want them saved. Are you worried God doesn't see that they're a good person? Are you worried that God has things that are more important to him than them being a good person? And so they don't understand every time they're like, I'm concerned for the salvation. What they're saying is at some level, I think when God takes a good look, they ain't getting in. That's a little insulting. I can see that, you know, because they've got a system that needs to be met rather than the goodness of the person speaking to God about who they are. And so we ask God today to help us to start to see with that wider lens that says we disagree and we're not going to agree. We're not always going to agree. There are some people in your life you'll never agree with. And if that is the basis for your ability to love, your ability to love is extremely compromised because I've always contended, especially in families that with couples, you don't even have a chance to be in love until you're disagreeing. Coming up to that moment is romance. And all of a sudden you look over and go, oh, I've fallen in love with another person and other person. We're not, we don't have this in common. Now you have the chance to love. I always, I hate, I hate to disagree with the great theologians of our days like Whitney Houston, but love of myself is not the greatest love of all. Love of another, it's of another person. And so we have to come together and say, you know, we have to somehow celebrate the fact that God has decided to create plurality in the world. That we come together in love, not in agreement always. And that we start to look across the divide and say, I disagree, I don't hate, I disagree. And if someone chooses to hate you back, you can disagree with that too. But we don't have to hate. That will exhaust us. That will take an energy that will no longer allow us to be ourselves. You know, it finally hit me that when my family comes for holidays, I don't dread my family coming. I dread the fact that sometimes the real me will take a hike and I'll kind of be the peacemaker. You know, because if we disagree, what if we hate each other? Because we've been taught that. Rather than be exactly who you are, let them be exactly who they are, and now you have a chance to love, to love another. If we can get that in our faith, if we can get that in our country, if we can find that in our families, we move towards healing. We actually have the energy to build the kingdom of God. 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The Lord WEBVTT
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The Lord be with you.
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A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Mark.
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The apostles gathered together with Jesus and reported all they had done and taught.
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He said to them, Come away by yourselves to a deserted place and rest a while.
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People were coming and going in great numbers, and they had no opportunity even to eat.
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So they went off in the boat by themselves to a deserted place.
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People saw them leaving, and many came to know about it.
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They hastened there on foot from all the towns and arrived at the place before them.
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When he disembarked and saw the vast crowd, his heart was moved with pity for them, for
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they were like sheep without a shepherd.
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And he began to teach them many things.
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The Gospel of the Lord.
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Well in some ways today's gospel is every pastor's worst nightmare.
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You know, you need some time to yourself.
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You've had it up to here, you're ready for burnout, you get away and you show up at a
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nice secluded place and the parish is there.
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So that's kind of what it sounds like.
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And yet there's this moment where, you know, Jesus has the decision to do one of the two
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pastoral responses, either to scream at the top of his lungs, It's my day off.
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Or recognize the needs in front of him.
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I think all of us have vocations, hopefully in life, and sometimes they coincide with
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your careers, and sometimes your vocation and your career are very much different.
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Sometimes they even collide.
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But the idea of a vocation usually means it's what's being called from you.
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It's not what you decide to do.
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This happens in churches all the time.
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It can be any ministry.
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It can be something from a volunteer position that works with the poor to someone who reads
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at church to anything where someone goes, this is my ministry and I have a right to
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it.
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No, no, the needs are called forth by the community.
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And it's not that this is mine and I have a right to it.
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No, it's that if the community has the need, you can fulfill that need.
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But I think sometimes people go through life thinking, well, this is my gift and they will
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need it whether they like it or not.
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And that just doesn't work.
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And so we get this where Jesus today at that moment, I've no doubt he would have preferred,
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he says, don't come away and rest.
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It was the first, it was the beginning of the self-care movement and it didn't work.
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People showed up.
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And so he kind of rolls up his sleeves and responds to the needs around him.
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What the question we have to deal with before we can pull that into the other two readings
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is when we hit that point, what is it in life that exhausts us?
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Not what taxes us, not what asks for energy, life, all of life, every relationship you
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have will ask for some energy from you.
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It always takes some effort.
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Any energy that doesn't, I mean, any relationship that doesn't inconvenience you once in a while
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is not a relationship.
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It's a delusion.
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You've just projected yourself onto another person.
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If you're really in relationship, it will inconvenience you.
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Their needs will not keep sync with your energy.
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There will be days you have no energy and they need it all.
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And that will just happen once in a while.
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For those of you that don't believe it, have children.
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I guarantee you their energy will kick in about the moment yours is going down the hill
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at night.
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They won't be in sync with you.
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No one is.
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And I think we forget that.
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I think that there are people who themselves will admit that between the ages of 18 and
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35, maybe their faith was not as important to them.
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And something happens.
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Often it's their own children, having children.
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All of a sudden they go through a conversion and their faith becomes important to them
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and they cannot believe that the world has not converted at the same moment.
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Ten years down the road, they can't believe that their children, who are 18, aren't going
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to church.
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You know, because they had that moment, they're here now.
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Why did the world not keep pace with them?
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You know, we all do that.
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We can't figure out why the world doesn't keep pace with us.
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And that's exhausting.
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That goes beyond taxing.
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Certainly, beyond simple things like that, we get into global politics and economics
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and all of these opinions where we have become a society that no longer knows how to disagree
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with one another.
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I mean, I keep wondering when, and we can call it left or right.
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We can call it Democrat, Republican.
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We can call it conservative, liberal, whatever it is.
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Do you ever think we'll finally get exhausted hating each other?
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Do you think the amount of hate that we throw out towards one another, we'll ever just get
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tired of it and be okay?
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Not.
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Well, if we don't want to hate each other, you know, I always hear people, we've got
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to compromise.
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Like, if we could all just get to the middle and think alike, that will never happen.
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What we have to learn is we will never agree and we don't have to hate each other.
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We actually have to include each other.
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I mean, I have a family with whom I have not agreed with anything since the day I was born.
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My mother swears I was born with a pamphlet in my hand trying to lower the fetal rate
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to five months just to have something to argue about.
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You know, it doesn't mean we, and to this day, we actually all get along.
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It's interesting when family said, you know, after that last election, you know, I can't
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talk to them anymore.
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I was always like, you mean before that you agreed on everything?
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No, but it was minor enough that I could delude myself.
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Now they were big issues.
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I could no longer hang on the delusion that we agreed.
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Rather than, we weren't called to agree.
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If God called humanity to be in perfect agreement, he should have stopped at Adam.
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Not because of Eve, don't go there.
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Because of all of the rest of creation.
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Shouldn't have made the animals, shouldn't have made Eve, shouldn't have made other people.
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And let's face it, if you read that story, there are other people in the story that have
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nothing to do with Adam and Eve.
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Where did they come from?
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Leave them all.
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We have Adam and no one will fight.
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No one will be upset with one another.
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Everyone will think the same.
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It will just be Adam.
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That was not God's vision for creation.
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Union and unity are not the same thing.
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Unity is everyone's the same.
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Union means different things come together.
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Not different things become the same, different things come together.
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So Jesus has this moment where he's got to figure out, just like everyone else, what
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is it that's exhausting me?
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What is it that's just taxing me?
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And he looks at all these people who aren't in sync with him because they're wanting a
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day of teaching.
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They're needing something and he's wanting peace and quiet.
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So they're out of sync with him and he adjusts.
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In the opening reading we hear that, you know, there's this condemnation of those who scatter.
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How do we scatter people?
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We scatter by dividing up and saying, if you don't agree with me, get out.
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If you don't agree, go over there.
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We're going to divide.
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Nowadays we're putting it, and I think it's just lovely, pretty language now.
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You see, especially politically in the United States, they talk about everyone because of
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the internet.
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They're just in their own bubble.
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They're in their own bubble.
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It's so pretty.
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It sounds like little kids playing with soap bubbles.
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It's so much nicer than saying no one knows how to handle anyone that doesn't think the
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way they do.
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You know, we just, nope, just stay in my bubble and I will pretend that most of the world
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agrees with me and there's not a bunch of different opinions out there.
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And we think, and all we do is we scatter.
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Exclusivity in the church, you know, through the Middle Ages, scattering that we hear in
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the Old Testament became excommunicating people.
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If that isn't scattering the flock, what is?
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You know, that's, that is the wrong approach.
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The wrong approach is to say, you know, if someone here disagrees with me, all I have
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to do is get them out of the parish and my workload is lightened that much anyway.
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If I can get enough of you to disagree with me, they'll be parking at Christmas.
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Get them out.
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You know, it lightens your workload.
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It lightens that effort in life if I can just ignore anyone that doesn't keep sync with
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my journey.
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But it's not what we're called to do.
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Even Paul says today in his letter to the Ephesians that Jesus came and he did two things.
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One we get, the other we pretend we get but we don't get, which is he says, to those of
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you that are near, and he's not talking geographically, he's talking philosophically and religiously
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and theologically, to those of you who are near, peace.
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To those of you who are not near, he preached peace.
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This is why Pope Francis has said, get rid of the culture wars.
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Quit investing in the culture wars, which are, to those who are with us, we say peace.
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To those who disagree, we say war.
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It's not what the scripture says.
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Scripture says, to those who disagree with us, peace.
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It's okay to disagree.
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I think the reason we get exhausted is because we are so in the habit of getting into the
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language, we hear the rhetoric nowadays, the public displays of just hateful language that
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have become normative.
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And we kind of think, oh, when we disagree with people, we hate them.
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And therefore, if we disagree with them, they will hate us and we don't want to be hated.
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So then we start to kind of not be who we really are so that we can be liked rather
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than be who we are and disagreed with.
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We just don't trust that process to be who we truly are.
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And some will disagree with us, but they don't have to hate us unless we believe too in that
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model that disagreement and hating one another is the same thing.
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I think most of us have had the experience.
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I mentioned last week, and I got some very interesting comments from people, which is
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why I don't mind mentioning it again, that I do believe there are a lot of married couples
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who love one another, even though God put them on earth to cancel out each other's vote.
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And they do it so consistently.
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And that doesn't mean that one of them doesn't love the other.
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It means they disagree.
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You know, when one person says, oh, I worry about the salvation of the soul of my spouse
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because I don't know, they belong to another faith or they're in a different spot in their
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journey.
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The problem with that is they've got all these reasons that this is what they have to do
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to be saved.
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I mean, unless they really think their spouse is a bad person, oh, no, they're a good person.
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I just want them saved.
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Are you worried God doesn't see that they're a good person?
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Are you worried that God has things that are more important to him than them being a good
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person?
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And so they don't understand every time they're like, I'm concerned for the salvation.
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What they're saying is at some level, I think when God takes a good look, they ain't getting
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in.
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That's a little insulting.
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I can see that, you know, because they've got a system that needs to be met rather than
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the goodness of the person speaking to God about who they are.
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And so we ask God today to help us to start to see with that wider lens that says we disagree
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and we're not going to agree.
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We're not always going to agree.
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There are some people in your life you'll never agree with.
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And if that is the basis for your ability to love, your ability to love is extremely
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compromised because I've always contended, especially in families that with couples,
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you don't even have a chance to be in love until you're disagreeing.
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Coming up to that moment is romance.
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And all of a sudden you look over and go, oh, I've fallen in love with another person
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and other person.
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We're not, we don't have this in common.
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Now you have the chance to love.
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I always, I hate, I hate to disagree with the great theologians of our days like Whitney
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Houston, but love of myself is not the greatest love of all.
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Love of another, it's of another person.
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And so we have to come together and say, you know, we have to somehow celebrate the fact
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that God has decided to create plurality in the world.
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That we come together in love, not in agreement always.
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And that we start to look across the divide and say, I disagree, I don't hate, I disagree.
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And if someone chooses to hate you back, you can disagree with that too.
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But we don't have to hate.
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That will exhaust us.
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That will take an energy that will no longer allow us to be ourselves.
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You know, it finally hit me that when my family comes for holidays, I don't dread my family
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coming.
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I dread the fact that sometimes the real me will take a hike and I'll kind of be the peacemaker.
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You know, because if we disagree, what if we hate each other?
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Because we've been taught that.
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Rather than be exactly who you are, let them be exactly who they are, and now you have
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a chance to love, to love another.
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If we can get that in our faith, if we can get that in our country, if we can find that
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in our families, we move towards healing.
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We actually have the energy to build the kingdom of God.
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Otherwise, we will continue to find ourselves exhausted by hate.
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Father Pat's message calls us to embrace the c Father Pat's message calls us to embrace the challenging but sacred work of love in diversity. He reflects on the Gospel passage where Jesus, though exhausted, responds with compassion to the crowd, illustrating that true vocation arises not from personal preference but from the needs around us. Father Pat warns against the temptation to retreat into comfort, entitlement, or ideological isolation, and instead invites us to confront the exhausting effects of division, judgment, and hate. He emphasizes that love begins where agreement ends, and that true Christian discipleship means learning to engage others in their full otherness—with compassion, peace, and inclusion, rather than demanding conformity. The Gospel, he reminds us, calls us to union, not uniformity; to community formed not by sameness, but by shared love across difference.
Father Pat begins by situating Jesus’ moment in the Gospel of Mark within the real and relatable human experience of burnout. The apostles are tired after their mission, and Jesus himself calls them to rest. But their retreat is interrupted by the persistent needs of the crowd, who arrive ahead of them. In this moment, Jesus chooses compassion over entitlement. He does not claim his “day off,” but instead sees the people as “sheep without a shepherd” and responds with love. This becomes a metaphor for all who have vocations—whether ordained, lay, familial, or professional. A vocation is not a personal project or entitlement; it is a response to the needs of others. We are not called to impose our gifts on others, but to offer them when the community calls for them. This challenges the modern tendency to treat ministry or calling as a possession or right, rather than a service.
Father Pat then expands the message to address a deeper spiritual and societal exhaustion. He challenges us to consider what truly exhausts us—not just what taxes us, but what depletes our soul. Relationships, he reminds us, are inherently inconvenient; they will at times misalign with our energy or desires. That is part of love. To expect harmony at all times is a delusion. He uses the example of parenting to illustrate how often love demands self-sacrifice at inconvenient times. Similarly, he notes how people can undergo personal conversions—often through life changes like having children—and then become frustrated when others, such as their children, do not follow the same path. This expectation—that others should keep pace with our own journey—leads to disillusionment and isolation.
The homily takes a prophetic turn when Father Pat critiques the divisive nature of modern society. He decries the way we have normalized hatred and exclusion in the name of disagreement. In political, religious, and social contexts, we increasingly live in “bubbles” of like-mindedness, mistaking unity for uniformity. But the Christian call is not to sameness—it is to union. God’s creation, from the beginning, was pluralistic. The presence of difference is not a flaw, but a feature of divine design. Jesus, Paul, and the Church call us not to eliminate difference but to embrace it in love.
Father Pat highlights Saint Paul’s message in Ephesians, where Paul speaks of Christ bringing peace to those who are near and preaching peace to those who are far. This means that peace is not just for insiders, but also for outsiders—for those who disagree with us, who are different from us. He references Pope Francis’ call to abandon the “culture wars,” which pit believers against each other in ideological battles rather than uniting them in the peace of Christ. True Christian mission is not to wage war on those who differ from us, but to extend peace to them.
The homily also critiques religious exclusivity and the historical tendency of the Church to “scatter” through excommunication or exclusion. This fracturing of the body of Christ contradicts the Gospel call to inclusion. Even within families, Father Pat observes, we often struggle to accept disagreement without letting it rupture love. He humorously and poignantly notes that many couples and families have sustained deep love despite fundamental political or theological differences. That is not a failure—it is a testament to love’s power to transcend agreement.
Father Pat challenges the assumption that disagreement implies spiritual danger or moral defect. He raises the pastoral concern of people who fear for the salvation of loved ones who do not share their faith, suggesting that this fear often reflects an implicit distrust in God’s mercy. If someone is a good person, he asks, do we not believe that God sees that goodness? Do we really think God values doctrinal alignment over the substance of a person’s heart?
Ultimately, Father Pat’s message is a call to spiritual maturity. Love doesn’t begin in harmony—it begins when harmony is broken, when we are called to love the “other” in their otherness. The exhaustion we feel often stems not from service or sacrifice, but from the energy we expend maintaining illusions of control, uniformity, and moral superiority. True rest and spiritual vitality come not from withdrawal, but from learning to love across difference, to find union without requiring uniformity, and to respond to the needs of others even when they are out of sync with our own desires.
In this way, Father Pat points us toward a vision of the Kingdom of God that is grounded in compassion, humility, and the radical inclusivity of Christ. He reminds us that we will not always agree—but that we are always called to love. Where we meet difference with peace, and disagreement with compassion, the Kingdom is built....
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{"task": "transcribe", "langua {"task": "transcribe", "language": "english", "duration": 630.8300170898438, "text": "The Lord be with you. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Matthew. As Jesus got into a boat, his disciples followed him, and suddenly a violent storm came up on the sea, so that the boat was being swamped by waves. But he was asleep. They came and woke him, saying, Lord, save us, we are perishing. He said to them, Why are you terrified, O you of little faith? When he got up, then he got up, rebuked the wind and the sea, and there was a great calm. The men were amazed and said, What sort of man is this, whom even the winds and the sea obey? The Gospel of the Lord. We're given, for our Fourth of July, the way the Fourth of July liturgy works is the Church has written special prayers for the day, but the readings this week, this year, we get, you know, Tuesday of this week of ordinary time. I mean, the readings kind of just stay. And so the readings are never really situated exactly for the holiday. It's kind of potluck. However, the prayers are. And we get, actually, two readings that give us a very interesting moment that I think very much mimics the moment our country is in. We have an Old Testament reading of why we need to be afraid, and a New Testament reading of why we need to have hope. Whether we're going to be a people of fear or a people of hope, and which of those emotions is going to continue to manipulate us. You know, as a country, are we a people of fear? Are we a people of hope? Every issue that arises in the world, are we going to say, Get the world further away from us because we're afraid? Or are we a people of hope? And I think it's interesting when you look, having been trained in liturgy, we were always taught, St. Alphonse and some of the great liturgists of history used to say, you know, they didn't put it this way, the people commenting would have added this next phrase. You know, it's a modern American thing that the homily is supposed to break open the scripture. We love that. It's actually supposed to break open the liturgy. You can actually do a homily on the Eucharistic prayer. You can do a homily on the closing prayer. You can do, you know, it doesn't have to be. It's the whole liturgy. And I think today when we look at these two readings that say you have a choice between being a people of hope or being a people of fear, it's interesting to hear the more specific take of our church on this day. Because this opening reading, this opening prayer, is, I think we should put it, you know, everywhere in public we can find right now. You know, Father of all nations, as we recall the day when our country claimed its place among a family of nations. I'm not sure what a great family member we're being these days. You know, a family of nations. For what has been achieved, we give you thanks for the work that still remains. We ask your help. And as you have called us to be a nation, may our country share your blessings with all the people of the earth. That what it means to be a great nation is in how we reach out, not, you know, you'll notice there's nothing in here that says, after we're done, you know, making sure we're safe and protecting ourselves and making sure none of those people can hurt us and making sure they aren't bad people and making sure they're up to our standards. Help us to share your blessings. That's Old Testament fear. That's that sort of, oh, everything will go horribly wrong if we become generous. There, you know, I think what the opening prayer tells us is that our choice is whether or not we're going to become a Christian nation or something else. I think what's fascinating, and I've said this before, but when I hear people talking about what will our response be to refugees, what will our response be to world hunger, what will our response be to all of these people in need around the world, most people would say, well, you know, you have to make sure that you're protected first. So what we're saying as a Christian nation is as soon as you can make sure that there will be no cross involved, we will be Christian. Crossless Christianity, that's what we want. We want a Christianity that guarantees we can be helpful without actually putting ourselves out there. You know, I, this weekend, the opening reading kind of always reminds me of that, that reading of Elisha the prophet, and he goes, and they've done this great, wonderful thing, and they've given him a room to stay in, and it says, you know, he gives her a blessing, and a year later she has a baby. Wouldn't it be nice if charity worked that way? If you needed something, and I could go, there, you have it, and get on with my life, and it hasn't hurt me at all, and no expense to Elisha whatsoever, you know, might have pulled a muscle. Other than that, he's fine. But you and I know that charity takes something from us. It takes time, it takes effort, it takes our assets, and if we are going to help someone, we have to be open to being compromised by it. No other way it happens. You know, no one says Jesus came to bless us from the cross. He sacrificed himself for us. Helping others will be sacrificial, and we will never get our heads around that without being a people of hope, a people who, as the prayer, when we opened up, said, we're first very aware, not of what we have, but of what we've been given, what has been our blessing. We always think we're going to hang on to ours like it's something that through divine right belongs to me, rather than everything I have, I've been given, you know, most of us have, even our, we don't like to admit this, because we like to think of ourselves as much freer, but most of you, and I've said this at most funerals, most of you know that even your personality you didn't really come up with on your own, and you know that the first time you do something, look in the mirror and think, ooh, I just became my mother. Ooh, I just became my father. Gee, what a coincidence that I know the person I became like. No, no coincidence. They built that personality in many ways, as did every person we've met. Accident of birth, that you're here and someone else is in a war-torn country. What we've been given is what we celebrate today, and if we ever understand the grace of what we've been given, we really have to be willing to embrace even greater ugliness to say, and I'm not sharing with anyone. It becomes a dark place we don't want to look at, and yet I think it's a place that people are working furiously to normalize right now. You know, I sometimes feel like our leaders think if we just keep throwing more bizarre garbage at them, the stuff we threw last week might start to seem normal, and we need to hold on and say, no, no, not normal. Not normal. Brian Massengale this last week, quoting Martin Luther King, said, you know, our country's problems is not any one party or any one politic or any one candidate or anyone. Our problem is we have a soul sickness. We have a soul sickness. 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The Lord WEBVTT
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The Lord be with you.
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A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Matthew.
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As Jesus got into a boat, his disciples followed him, and suddenly a violent storm came up
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on the sea, so that the boat was being swamped by waves.
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But he was asleep.
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They came and woke him, saying, Lord, save us, we are perishing.
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He said to them, Why are you terrified, O you of little faith?
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When he got up, then he got up, rebuked the wind and the sea, and there was a great calm.
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The men were amazed and said, What sort of man is this, whom even the winds and the sea
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obey?
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The Gospel of the Lord.
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We're given, for our Fourth of July, the way the Fourth of July liturgy works is the Church
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has written special prayers for the day, but the readings this week, this year, we get,
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you know, Tuesday of this week of ordinary time.
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I mean, the readings kind of just stay.
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And so the readings are never really situated exactly for the holiday.
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It's kind of potluck.
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However, the prayers are.
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And we get, actually, two readings that give us a very interesting moment that I think
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very much mimics the moment our country is in.
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We have an Old Testament reading of why we need to be afraid, and a New Testament reading
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of why we need to have hope.
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Whether we're going to be a people of fear or a people of hope, and which of those emotions
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is going to continue to manipulate us.
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You know, as a country, are we a people of fear?
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Are we a people of hope?
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Every issue that arises in the world, are we going to say, Get the world further away
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from us because we're afraid?
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Or are we a people of hope?
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And I think it's interesting when you look, having been trained in liturgy, we were always
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taught, St. Alphonse and some of the great liturgists of history used to say, you know,
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they didn't put it this way, the people commenting would have added this next phrase.
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You know, it's a modern American thing that the homily is supposed to break open the scripture.
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We love that.
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It's actually supposed to break open the liturgy.
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You can actually do a homily on the Eucharistic prayer.
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You can do a homily on the closing prayer.
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You can do, you know, it doesn't have to be.
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It's the whole liturgy.
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And I think today when we look at these two readings that say you have a choice between
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being a people of hope or being a people of fear, it's interesting to hear the more specific
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take of our church on this day.
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Because this opening reading, this opening prayer, is, I think we should put it, you
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know, everywhere in public we can find right now.
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You know, Father of all nations, as we recall the day when our country claimed its place
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among a family of nations.
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I'm not sure what a great family member we're being these days.
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You know, a family of nations.
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For what has been achieved, we give you thanks for the work that still remains.
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We ask your help.
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And as you have called us to be a nation, may our country share your blessings with
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all the people of the earth.
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That what it means to be a great nation is in how we reach out, not, you know, you'll
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notice there's nothing in here that says, after we're done, you know, making sure we're
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safe and protecting ourselves and making sure none of those people can hurt us and making
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sure they aren't bad people and making sure they're up to our standards.
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Help us to share your blessings.
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That's Old Testament fear.
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That's that sort of, oh, everything will go horribly wrong if we become generous.
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There, you know, I think what the opening prayer tells us is that our choice is whether
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or not we're going to become a Christian nation or something else.
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I think what's fascinating, and I've said this before, but when I hear people talking
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about what will our response be to refugees, what will our response be to world hunger,
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what will our response be to all of these people in need around the world, most people
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would say, well, you know, you have to make sure that you're protected first.
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So what we're saying as a Christian nation is as soon as you can make sure that there
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will be no cross involved, we will be Christian.
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Crossless Christianity, that's what we want.
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We want a Christianity that guarantees we can be helpful without actually putting ourselves
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out there.
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You know, I, this weekend, the opening reading kind of always reminds me of that, that reading
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of Elisha the prophet, and he goes, and they've done this great, wonderful thing, and they've
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given him a room to stay in, and it says, you know, he gives her a blessing, and a year
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later she has a baby.
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Wouldn't it be nice if charity worked that way?
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If you needed something, and I could go, there, you have it, and get on with my life, and
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it hasn't hurt me at all, and no expense to Elisha whatsoever, you know, might have pulled
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a muscle.
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Other than that, he's fine.
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But you and I know that charity takes something from us.
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It takes time, it takes effort, it takes our assets, and if we are going to help someone,
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we have to be open to being compromised by it.
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No other way it happens.
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You know, no one says Jesus came to bless us from the cross.
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He sacrificed himself for us.
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Helping others will be sacrificial, and we will never get our heads around that without
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being a people of hope, a people who, as the prayer, when we opened up, said, we're first
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very aware, not of what we have, but of what we've been given, what has been our blessing.
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We always think we're going to hang on to ours like it's something that through divine
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right belongs to me, rather than everything I have, I've been given, you know, most of
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us have, even our, we don't like to admit this, because we like to think of ourselves
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as much freer, but most of you, and I've said this at most funerals, most of you know that
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even your personality you didn't really come up with on your own, and you know that the
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first time you do something, look in the mirror and think, ooh, I just became my mother.
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Ooh, I just became my father.
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Gee, what a coincidence that I know the person I became like.
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No, no coincidence.
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They built that personality in many ways, as did every person we've met.
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Accident of birth, that you're here and someone else is in a war-torn country.
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What we've been given is what we celebrate today, and if we ever understand the grace
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of what we've been given, we really have to be willing to embrace even greater ugliness
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to say, and I'm not sharing with anyone.
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It becomes a dark place we don't want to look at, and yet I think it's a place that people
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are working furiously to normalize right now.
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You know, I sometimes feel like our leaders think if we just keep throwing more bizarre
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garbage at them, the stuff we threw last week might start to seem normal, and we need
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to hold on and say, no, no, not normal.
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Not normal.
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Brian Massengale this last week, quoting Martin Luther King, said, you know, our country's
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problems is not any one party or any one politic or any one candidate or anyone.
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Our problem is we have a soul sickness.
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We have a soul sickness.
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If I can go through my life happy that I've got what I have and not caring about people
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who are suffering around the world, that is a soul sickness, and it's a soul sickness
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we're not anxious to cure because if I open myself up to how much others are suffering,
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it will demand a scary amount of my life.
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It's frightening to really open ourselves up to the awareness of what other people go
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through, and yet without it, we become, we're going to become the little town, we're going
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to become this little isolated place, and oh, then we made a mistake, and now God's
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going to destroy us, and we become a people of great fear, you know, a people of great
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fear instead of a people of great generosity, a people of great hope.
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I've joked a lot, and not to attack any one person, but I've joked a lot about the phrase,
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you know, the most meaningless phrase of the last year was make America great again because
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there's no such thing.
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You can't say great unless you say great at what, you know, and someone says, oh, you're
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great.
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I don't know.
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Do they mean I'm a great ax murderer?
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You're great.
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Great demands that you explain great at what.
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I think we all think America should be great.
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I think today's gospel asks us, great at what?
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Great at protecting yourself, you know, you could argue for some people that is the making
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of a nation.
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Great at responding to the needs of the world, that is the making of a Christian nation.
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Father Pat’s message is a powerful call to examine Father Pat’s message is a powerful call to examine the soul of our nation through the lens of faith, particularly as we celebrate the Fourth of July. He contrasts the fear that often drives national decisions with the hope that the Gospel calls us to live by. Using the day’s liturgical readings and prayers, he reminds us that our greatness as a country is not measured by isolation or self-protection, but by our willingness to share our blessings and embrace the cross of sacrificial love. True Christian charity, he insists, costs us something, and only a people founded on hope—not fear—can rise to the challenge of global compassion and justice.
Father Pat begins by reflecting on the Gospel reading, where Jesus calms the storm while His disciples panic. The juxtaposition of Jesus’ peace and the disciples’ fear becomes a metaphor for the current spiritual and socio-political climate of the United States. The disciples' fear in the storm mirrors the fear that often underlies national attitudes—fear of others, fear of suffering, fear of vulnerability. But Jesus' rebuke—“O you of little faith”—is not merely about their lack of trust in His power, but about their inability to believe that peace and divine presence are possible even amid chaos. Father Pat connects this to the American tendency to respond to global crises—refugees, hunger, violence—not with compassion, but with self-protection and isolationism.
He then draws attention to the structure of the liturgy itself, emphasizing that a homily is not confined to breaking open the Scriptures but is meant to illuminate the entire liturgical context, including the prayers. The opening prayer of the Fourth of July liturgy, which thanks God for the blessings given to the nation and asks for help in sharing those blessings with all people, becomes the theological centerpiece of the message. This prayer, he argues, articulates a vision of America not as a fortress, but as a generous member of a global family. He critiques how far the nation has drifted from this vision, questioning whether America is truly acting like a "family member" among nations, and whether it reflects the values of the Gospel in its policies and attitudes.
Father Pat challenges the popular notion of “Crossless Christianity”—the desire to do good without sacrifice. He illustrates this with the story of Elisha in the Old Testament, who blesses a woman without it costing him anything. But he insists that real charity and justice are not painless. They require us to risk, to give, to be inconvenienced. He states boldly that if we are unwilling to suffer for others, then we have abandoned the very essence of Christian discipleship. Helping others, he declares, will involve the cross, and without embracing the cross, we cannot claim to be living the Gospel.
He further critiques the idea that our blessings are earned or deserved. Instead, he reminds us that most of what we have—our talents, our opportunities, even our personalities—are gifts shaped by others and by circumstances beyond our control. Recognizing that everything is a gift leads to humility and generosity. Conversely, believing we are entitled to everything we have fosters a dark selfishness—a “soul sickness,” as he calls it, quoting theologian Brian Massengale and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. This soul sickness is the moral blindness that allows people to ignore the suffering of others without remorse.
In closing, Father Pat deconstructs the phrase “Make America Great Again,” pointing out that greatness is meaningless unless we define what we mean by it. Are we striving to be great at hoarding wealth and power? Or great at offering compassion, justice, and hope to the world? He suggests that the Gospel calls us to the latter—to be a people of generosity and hope, not fear and self-preservation. Our national greatness, he argues, should be measured not by military might or economic dominance, but by our willingness to bear the cross for others, to share our blessings, and to live out the radical love of Christ on the world stage....
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There are dozens at least of people up and down the road being crucified along with him on any given day during the, you know, during the the occupation of that area of the world. And so sometimes you don't think, oh, it is it is the worst death. You know, we hear the story of two people, the criminals on either side. So what makes this when we say no one has suffered like Jesus? It's not the suffering. It's the willingness. And we don't always I think we don't always get our head around that. I'm I'm very much in favor. There are two, I think, larger strands of theology in our church, atonement theology and really incarnational theology. Atonement is the old Jesus must suffer a certain amount to pay God for our sins. And I've always struggled with that, because while it makes Jesus quite the hero, it doesn't reflect well on God. And we don't want to admit it. But when someone says Jesus saved us from, well, the wrath of what did Jesus save us from? Is it the wrath of God? And if you just take the scripture a little too literally, is he still trying to get over a piece of fruit? I struggle with atonement theology. Incarnational theology says Jesus came down as if there's a little prayer I say at the altar every time I say mass. Sometimes at daily mass, I'll say it out loud. It's what they call a sort of OJ prayer, it's said under the voice, it's a whisper. And it's when you're pouring the wine, the water into the wine, that little drop, and it's, you know, through the mingling of this water and wine that we come to share in the divinity of Christ who humbled himself to share in our humanity. God's desire to be close to us demands that he become human, because there's no other way to be closer to us. It can't be physically closer. God is as close as the air. There's a rather, it's graphic, but there's something about it that I think speaks to me. There's a saying out of the mysticism of Islam that says God is as close as your journey ever. Right there where you can feel the heart of me. God is not distant. So how does God get closer to us? Well, what the theologians are trying to say is there are some parts of humanity that, even though we say nothing is beyond God, are beyond God. Because God can't know doubt. God knows what's going to happen tomorrow. God is not doubting anything. God doesn't understand, at an experiential level, not knowing what's going to happen tomorrow, worrying. We worry about our futures. We worry about our children's futures. God already sees where we're all going to be long after this life is over. So when we go to God and we say, you know, I've got all these worries, we want to think, well, God will be compassionate, but God's never had these worries. I don't think God has worried a rent bill in years. How do we, how do we relate to that God? God empties, this is the language they use, he empties himself, this is the second person in the Trinity, empties himself of his divinity and literally experiences humanity, which means he'll have to be born. He'll have to live completely dependent on others, at least for the first several years of his life. You've heard me say often, many of us have blocked it out. No one here survived the first 10 years of their life based on your amazing abilities. We start this life as charity cases. Our parents do everything for us. No one holds a baby in their hands and goes, what does it do? I don't get it. No, your heart is there, but you know, where we can see God holding us that way, we can understand that Jesus has to become that helpless child. He has to be affected in personality by his parents. I always think about that. People talk about all these reflections about Mary, but I think that he's not the most important one, possibly just, but we don't hear about him later in life. There is arguably, there is no human who has had more effect on God than Mary. You know, raise a child, they'll tell you the effect you've had on them. Because if Jesus is sort of a, if we think of Jesus as sort of Teflon, oh no, he's God, nothing they did will actually really affect him because he's God, then he was never really human. The mystery of the incarnation is he's really human. He's really formed by Mary and Joseph. He's really affected by his friends. He's really going to have to live and if humanity turns on him, there's nothing you can do. You know, people who end up receiving a death amnesty, sometimes, you know, we hope there's never a mistake, but it's never really about whether they're innocent or guilty, it's about whether the community is on their side or not. Comes down to 12 people. If the community turns against you, it's bad. You know, we all depend on each other, we're interdependent in ways we don't know. And the more of that we experience, the closer we are to building the kingdom of God. So Jesus has to go through all this and he has to go through it until the day he dies. The question you can always throw out to an atonement theologian and either they just won't think about it, they'll say absolutely or whatever, they won't really want to get into it because it's very disturbing to them is, so if the crowd had been better people, if the crowd had converted and Jesus had died an old man in bed, would we be saved? And if we say no, then Jesus saved us, but so did that awful crowd of sinners. There are things about it that should disturb us. But Incarnational says, did Jesus, you know, were we saved through Jesus dying on the cross? Yes, because that's how he died. He could have died anyway, but he had to ride the human ride and be affected by his community and when they turned against him, he, you know, he ends up in a horrible place. The love of Jesus is the love that doesn't say to God at that moment, I'm done, call off the experiment, I don't care. Because if he doesn't hold out until death, he never really lived a human life. He has to, he has to hang on until the end. Why? For the sake of the very people hurting him. That's why he has a pain like no other. Not because the pain is different, but because there's a voluntary aspect. It's a willingness, a willingness to go through things for others. And it's the heart of every one of his teachings. It's the opening of his preaching, teaching people that others are good, blessed, blessed to the poor, blessed to all the people you think aren't blessed, clear to his very last word to anyone, which is to John and Mary, take care of each other, be for each other everything I was for you. Everything he brings is a pure goodness of humanity. And that's what we try to look for. We know that we will never do it as perfectly. When we hear that Old Testament reading about, well, so and so was, they were perfect. They were perfect. In all those scriptures, words like good, bad, better, worse, perfect, they don't really mean anything unless you say, perfect at what? And whenever you hear about the prophets who are claiming the word of God and they end up thrown in a cistern, they're perfect at everything but public relations. You just can't say. People always say, well, are they good at what? And Jesus comes here to be good at humaning. Not a word. Don't let them make it into what I'm doing this time. You know, at being human, that's what he comes to do because he's going to take that experience and God will still be God, but God will now be God who has known the pain of loss, who has known the doubt of not knowing what's going on. I love that we have Matthew's gospel and Luke's battling over this, where Luke says, he says, forgive them, they know not what they do. Matthew has, why have you abandoned me? The doubt and the love are right there together. I think most people will say, you know, when you love people, you trust them completely. I think real love loves in the presence of doubt because no one can know anyone perfectly. No one can know anyone perfectly and for some people, that keeps them from committing for their whole life and for others, that's what makes human commitment worth it. If God could come down and tell you what someone was going to do for the next 50 years before you decided to marry them, it'd be kind of a cheap vow. It really would. It's connecting to someone and not quite knowing and trusting enough, not perfectly, but that moment when Jesus decides he could get out of it at any moment, he can always, and we have to believe Jesus has the divine right to pull the plug on this human experiment and he takes it to the end and when he dies, it is complete. He has lived a completely human life and in his death, we are saved. Not because it was more important than the rest of the life, but because, you know, until the finish line, he's crossed and kind of a human life, maybe a human life. You'll notice every miracle Jesus has ever done in the Gospels, you know, that's where you go, well, yeah, he's still got some God power and a friend of mine in seminary used to call it the Jesus rule. How does he balance that? He can use the power of God, but he's got to live a human life so he can use the power of God for anyone but himself. Show me the miracle where Jesus helps Jesus, you know, he heals someone else, he brings someone else to a new place, he, you know, helps people to heal in ways they can't imagine. He brings people back to life. He himself, you know, we don't hear the stories, but if Jesus got a cold, he was probably down for five days. He was human. And he didn't use his divinity to create a hybrid life, he lived a human life. And the one thing about humans is they need other humans. Our salvation is that there is a human in the Trinity. And I want each of you to think, if God said to you tomorrow you're going to heaven, who would you like to see there? Yeah, you'd probably start with family. The better question is, how many of you, especially parents, could not truly enter into the experience of heaven if you had children that you thought were in hell? So for you to be in heaven, they have to be in heaven. And for them to be in heaven, even their friends, I know you don't approve of them, but their friends have to be in heaven. And then their friends' children. And in other words, the reason as Catholics we believe we are saved in community is because we can trace that community back to Jesus. And every person who needs their loved ones in heaven to truly experience heaven creates this natural pull of grace. Tonight we celebrate a horrific moment. A horrific moment in which we can look at the suffering and we need to to see the severity of the situation, but that is not tonight. Tonight is to look through the suffering to the person willing to suffer. For you and for me. 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I think it's hard for us to really wrap our minds around all that is taking place in that
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reading.
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And, uh, even with the Stations of the Cross, I've started this, uh, kind of tradition we've
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done it three years in a row where we just focus on different stations.
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I mean, we do the whole stations, but we'll stop for extended times on certain ones because
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the story, you know, most of the Gospels we do homilies.
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This one is the foundation of our faith.
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We preach on it 52 weeks a year from different angles.
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It is our core story.
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But I want to take a moment to expand something I started at the Stations of the Cross today
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that we don't always catch on to in the suffering of Jesus on the cross, which is it is not
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the suffering that is special.
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There are dozens at least of people up and down the road being crucified along with him
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on any given day during the, you know, during the the occupation of that area of the world.
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And so sometimes you don't think, oh, it is it is the worst death.
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You know, we hear the story of two people, the criminals on either side.
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So what makes this when we say no one has suffered like Jesus?
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It's not the suffering.
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It's the willingness.
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And we don't always I think we don't always get our head around that.
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I'm I'm very much in favor.
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There are two, I think, larger strands of theology in our church, atonement theology
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and really incarnational theology.
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Atonement is the old Jesus must suffer a certain amount to pay God for our sins.
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And I've always struggled with that, because while it makes Jesus quite the hero, it doesn't
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reflect well on God.
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And we don't want to admit it.
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But when someone says Jesus saved us from, well, the wrath of what did Jesus save us
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from?
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Is it the wrath of God?
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And if you just take the scripture a little too literally, is he still trying to get over
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a piece of fruit?
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I struggle with atonement theology.
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Incarnational theology says Jesus came down as if there's a little prayer I say at the
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altar every time I say mass.
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Sometimes at daily mass, I'll say it out loud.
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It's what they call a sort of OJ prayer, it's said under the voice, it's a whisper.
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And it's when you're pouring the wine, the water into the wine, that little drop, and
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it's, you know, through the mingling of this water and wine that we come to share in the
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divinity of Christ who humbled himself to share in our humanity.
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God's desire to be close to us demands that he become human, because there's no other
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way to be closer to us.
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It can't be physically closer.
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God is as close as the air.
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There's a rather, it's graphic, but there's something about it that I think speaks to
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me.
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There's a saying out of the mysticism of Islam that says God is as close as your journey
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ever.
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Right there where you can feel the heart of me.
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God is not distant.
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So how does God get closer to us?
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Well, what the theologians are trying to say is there are some parts of humanity that,
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even though we say nothing is beyond God, are beyond God.
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Because God can't know doubt.
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God knows what's going to happen tomorrow.
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God is not doubting anything.
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God doesn't understand, at an experiential level, not knowing what's going to happen
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tomorrow, worrying.
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We worry about our futures.
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We worry about our children's futures.
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God already sees where we're all going to be long after this life is over.
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So when we go to God and we say, you know, I've got all these worries, we want to think,
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well, God will be compassionate, but God's never had these worries.
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I don't think God has worried a rent bill in years.
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How do we, how do we relate to that God?
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God empties, this is the language they use, he empties himself, this is the second person
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in the Trinity, empties himself of his divinity and literally experiences humanity, which
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means he'll have to be born.
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He'll have to live completely dependent on others, at least for the first several years
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of his life.
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You've heard me say often, many of us have blocked it out.
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No one here survived the first 10 years of their life based on your amazing abilities.
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We start this life as charity cases.
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Our parents do everything for us.
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No one holds a baby in their hands and goes, what does it do?
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I don't get it.
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No, your heart is there, but you know, where we can see God holding us that way, we can
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understand that Jesus has to become that helpless child.
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He has to be affected in personality by his parents.
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I always think about that.
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People talk about all these reflections about Mary, but I think that he's not the most important
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one, possibly just, but we don't hear about him later in life.
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There is arguably, there is no human who has had more effect on God than Mary.
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You know, raise a child, they'll tell you the effect you've had on them.
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Because if Jesus is sort of a, if we think of Jesus as sort of Teflon, oh no, he's God,
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nothing they did will actually really affect him because he's God, then he was never really
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human.
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The mystery of the incarnation is he's really human.
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He's really formed by Mary and Joseph.
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He's really affected by his friends.
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He's really going to have to live and if humanity turns on him, there's nothing you can do.
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You know, people who end up receiving a death amnesty, sometimes, you know, we hope there's
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never a mistake, but it's never really about whether they're innocent or guilty, it's about
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whether the community is on their side or not.
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Comes down to 12 people.
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If the community turns against you, it's bad.
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You know, we all depend on each other, we're interdependent in ways we don't know.
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And the more of that we experience, the closer we are to building the kingdom of God.
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So Jesus has to go through all this and he has to go through it until the day he dies.
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The question you can always throw out to an atonement theologian and either they just
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won't think about it, they'll say absolutely or whatever, they won't really want to get
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into it because it's very disturbing to them is, so if the crowd had been better people,
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if the crowd had converted and Jesus had died an old man in bed, would we be saved?
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And if we say no, then Jesus saved us, but so did that awful crowd of sinners.
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There are things about it that should disturb us.
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But Incarnational says, did Jesus, you know, were we saved through Jesus dying on the cross?
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Yes, because that's how he died.
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He could have died anyway, but he had to ride the human ride and be affected by his community
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and when they turned against him, he, you know, he ends up in a horrible place.
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The love of Jesus is the love that doesn't say to God at that moment, I'm done, call
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off the experiment, I don't care.
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Because if he doesn't hold out until death, he never really lived a human life.
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He has to, he has to hang on until the end.
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Why?
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For the sake of the very people hurting him.
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That's why he has a pain like no other.
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Not because the pain is different, but because there's a voluntary aspect.
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It's a willingness, a willingness to go through things for others.
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And it's the heart of every one of his teachings.
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It's the opening of his preaching, teaching people that others are good, blessed, blessed
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to the poor, blessed to all the people you think aren't blessed, clear to his very last
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word to anyone, which is to John and Mary, take care of each other, be for each other
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everything I was for you.
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Everything he brings is a pure goodness of humanity.
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And that's what we try to look for.
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We know that we will never do it as perfectly.
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When we hear that Old Testament reading about, well, so and so was, they were perfect.
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They were perfect.
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In all those scriptures, words like good, bad, better, worse, perfect, they don't really
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mean anything unless you say, perfect at what?
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And whenever you hear about the prophets who are claiming the word of God and they end
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up thrown in a cistern, they're perfect at everything but public relations.
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You just can't say.
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People always say, well, are they good at what?
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And Jesus comes here to be good at humaning.
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Not a word.
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Don't let them make it into what I'm doing this time.
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You know, at being human, that's what he comes to do because he's going to take that experience
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and God will still be God, but God will now be God who has known the pain of loss, who
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has known the doubt of not knowing what's going on.
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I love that we have Matthew's gospel and Luke's battling over this, where Luke says,
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he says, forgive them, they know not what they do.
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Matthew has, why have you abandoned me?
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The doubt and the love are right there together.
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I think most people will say, you know, when you love people, you trust them completely.
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I think real love loves in the presence of doubt because no one can know anyone perfectly.
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No one can know anyone perfectly and for some people, that keeps them from committing for
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their whole life and for others, that's what makes human commitment worth it.
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If God could come down and tell you what someone was going to do for the next 50 years before
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you decided to marry them, it'd be kind of a cheap vow.
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It really would.
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It's connecting to someone and not quite knowing and trusting enough, not perfectly, but that
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moment when Jesus decides he could get out of it at any moment, he can always, and we
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have to believe Jesus has the divine right to pull the plug on this human experiment
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and he takes it to the end and when he dies, it is complete.
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He has lived a completely human life and in his death, we are saved.
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Not because it was more important than the rest of the life, but because, you know, until
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the finish line, he's crossed and kind of a human life, maybe a human life.
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You'll notice every miracle Jesus has ever done in the Gospels, you know, that's where
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you go, well, yeah, he's still got some God power and a friend of mine in seminary used
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to call it the Jesus rule.
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How does he balance that?
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He can use the power of God, but he's got to live a human life so he can use the power
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of God for anyone but himself.
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Show me the miracle where Jesus helps Jesus, you know, he heals someone else, he brings
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someone else to a new place, he, you know, helps people to heal in ways they can't imagine.
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He brings people back to life.
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He himself, you know, we don't hear the stories, but if Jesus got a cold, he was probably down
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for five days.
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He was human.
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And he didn't use his divinity to create a hybrid life, he lived a human life.
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And the one thing about humans is they need other humans.
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Our salvation is that there is a human in the Trinity.
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And I want each of you to think, if God said to you tomorrow you're going to heaven, who
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would you like to see there?
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Yeah, you'd probably start with family.
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The better question is, how many of you, especially parents, could not truly enter into the experience
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of heaven if you had children that you thought were in hell?
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So for you to be in heaven, they have to be in heaven.
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And for them to be in heaven, even their friends, I know you don't approve of them, but their
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friends have to be in heaven.
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And then their friends' children.
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And in other words, the reason as Catholics we believe we are saved in community is because
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we can trace that community back to Jesus.
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And every person who needs their loved ones in heaven to truly experience heaven creates
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this natural pull of grace.
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Tonight we celebrate a horrific moment.
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A horrific moment in which we can look at the suffering and we need to to see the severity
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of the situation, but that is not tonight.
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Tonight is to look through the suffering to the person willing to suffer.
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For you and for me.
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For those we love and even for those we have not yet learned to love.
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Father Pat’s message centers on the idea that what Father Pat’s message centers on the idea that what makes Jesus’ Passion and death unique is not the level of physical suffering he endured, but the radical, self-emptying willingness with which he embraced it. His crucifixion does not stand out because of its brutality—many were crucified during that time—but because it was freely chosen, motivated by divine love and solidarity with humanity. Father Pat challenges a transactional atonement theology that portrays God as wrathful and needing satisfaction, instead emphasizing an incarnational theology where God in Christ fully enters into human experience—not just in death, but in life, relationship, vulnerability, and dependence. Jesus' mission was to live a fully human life, shaped by others, subject to doubt and suffering, yet steadfast in self-giving love. Through this full human experience, including death, God becomes not only divinely transcendent but intimately immanent—one who knows human sorrow, pain, and love from within. Salvation, then, is not a legalistic exchange, but a relational, communal reality that draws all creation into divine intimacy through the humanity of Christ.
Father Pat provides a profound meditation on the Passion of Christ, not as a spectacle of suffering, but as the climax of the Incarnation—God’s total immersion into the human condition. He begins by dismantling a common assumption: that Jesus’ suffering is unique because of its intensity. Instead, he argues, crucifixion was tragically common in Jesus' time, and others endured similar physical pain. What sets Jesus apart is his volitional embrace of suffering—not for personal gain, but for love of others. This leads Father Pat to critique atonement theology, which views the crucifixion in legalistic terms, as Jesus paying a debt or satisfying divine wrath. This framework, he argues, makes God appear more like an angry judge than a loving Father and undermines the relational character of divine love.
In contrast, Father Pat advocates for an incarnational theology, which sees the Incarnation—God becoming human—as the central revelation of divine love. He reflects on the vulnerability of God entering human life through Jesus: becoming a helpless infant, shaped by Mary and Joseph, experiencing doubt, dependence, community, and ultimately betrayal and death. This vulnerability is not a performance but a real participation in what it means to be human. In Jesus, God does not merely appear as human; God becomes human. This means Jesus had to walk through life fully—dependent, influenced, limited, and fragile—because anything less would not be a true incarnation.
Father Pat emphasizes that Jesus’ miracles were always for others, never for himself. He accepted the limitations of humanity, even to the point of death, because only by living a fully human life—including its pain, confusion, and loss—could he redeem it from within. This human life is not just a means to an end; it is the very site of salvation. Jesus’ faithfulness unto death is the ultimate act of love—not because it was demanded by a wrathful God, but because it was the deepest expression of God’s solidarity with humanity.
He then explores the communal dimension of salvation. Drawing from Catholic theology, he insists that salvation is not merely individualistic. Instead, it is relational and collective, because love binds people together. Father Pat calls attention to the way we desire our loved ones to be with us in heaven—and how that desire cascades outward to include their loved ones, and so on. This web of love reflects the communal nature of salvation and mirrors the Trinitarian life itself, which is a community of love. Because Jesus, a human, is now forever part of the Trinity, humanity is drawn into divine life not individually, but together.
In conclusion, Father Pat urges his listeners to look beyond the physical suffering of Christ and see the person willing to suffer. The cross is not merely a site of punishment, but a revelation of divine love that holds firm even in the face of human betrayal. That love is not abstract—it is embodied, vulnerable, and enduring. It calls us not only to gratitude but to imitation: to love as Christ loved, with a willingness to be affected, to suffer with, and to live for others. This is the heart of the faith and the source of our hope....
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{"task": "transcribe", "langua {"task": "transcribe", "language": "english", "duration": 764.1300048828125, "text": "For those of you who may be visiting, and you feel like you don't know what's going on in the service, neither do the Catholics, so it's okay. This liturgy takes place once a year, so it's not like our normal mass, so things happen. In a minute, we will do the veneration of the cross, which is a very unique ritual in our faith, where people come up, and we will have the cross, we'll do a procession with it, it's laid out, and people come and they touch the cross, and some take a moment to pray, and it reminds us that this moment of loss and death and pain and desolation are central to our faith, and it's thrown around so much that we don't always think why, and so we hear a lot of odd ideas thrown out in the world as to why Christians are so focused to the cross. First off, the cross does nothing for us. The man on the cross is a different story. I think sometimes we just, linguistically, we get talking about the cross. The cross is wood. The man on the cross, and what happens, and why God comes down to die, and there's a thing called atonement theology, which is not my favorite, which is God needed Jesus to suffer before he let us off the hook, and it makes Jesus the hero, but you kind of raise an eyebrow at God. It's an elephant right in the center of our Christianity that no one wants to really say, well, what was he saving us from? Well, you know, hell. Well, who made hell? And we start wiggling and getting a little uncomfortable, and it kind of comes down to this feeling that Jesus saves us from the wrath of, okay, we don't want to go there. What do we do with that absolute paradox in our faith? Incarnation theology says Jesus came to die and to suffer because those are experiences that God cannot have. God can't suffer. God can't not know what's happening tomorrow, so God has to empty himself and become like us. And we could say, you know, we could have told him ahead of time, why would you want to come and suffer and die? And if you look through history and if you look through your lives, if you look what's going on right now in our own culture and around the world, you come to realize something very quickly, and that is there is a human bond that happens in suffering that happens nowhere else in life. You know, triumph is fun, we enjoy it, but it is in the suffering that we really come together. It's sort of the paradox of our faith. I always tell people, especially people who either they're new to the faith or they aren't sure, they're new to the parish, and they'll always say things like, well, you know, I struggle with this belief and I feel alone. When you feel alone, that's when you know you're like everyone else. When you feel like you don't fit in, oh, you are one of us. That's that paradox. And so in our woundedness is the wholeness. How do we get there? Because that's why we come and we're brave enough to look at the cross. Not just because we think, oh, eventually it's resurrection, but because we know when we look at the cross, that's where our connection to one another is. I'm going to share, I'm not going to sing a song, but I am going to share with you a line of a song, so I'm going to make Nick get off the keyboard. You know, he comes clear from out of town and I boot him. For those of you that don't know, I've been on a, like a craze, writing music lately, and I've backed off, not all of you, but I've backed off church music. I've been writing church music forever and, you know, other than having five rhymes for the word charity, you know, after a while you think I've got to write some different lyrics just to keep myself sharp. So I thought I'm going to do a cycle of theater songs, of a life, a life that starts and goes clear to death, and what's been plaguing me is the last song, the death. Because I had this chorus and I knew what I wanted to do with it, I kind of, it started out as a tribute to my grandmother Dolan, which quickly became a tribute to my grandmother Kelly, I'll tell you. But just, what happened is at the very end of this, I was three notes away from being able to end this song and go to bed one night, and I finally had to give up. And what I had done, because I know a lot of us have felt like in the last few years that all the battles we fought in our life, you know, we fought against racism and we fought against sexism and we fought against all these isms, and we all of a sudden look around and they're on the rise again and we think those mountains that we thought we climbed are ahead of us. And when did that happen? And I kind of wanted to weave that into this last thing about, you know, one of my grandmothers used to always say, you know, you do what's yours to do and you trust others. You know, even at the end of your life, you didn't get everything done. And so I was going to, I was going to end with this, which is this, um... And we don't change the whole world and the race isn't done. But we pass the baton to those still able to run. Remember all we've achieved on the shoulders of those who came before us to begin this fight we know that we chose. We are, and I couldn't think of the last word. We are one just sounded like, you know, I knew I was going there. But we are, and it wasn't a religious piece, we are gods, we are peace. And I thought, you know, we, my belief there, we're the body of Christ. We're this group that's connected through our woundedness. And you know, lyrics will drive me up a tree until I find the lyric I want. And so I did what anyone would do. I forgot about that song and wrote the others. And I, and I, the verses were about my grandmother. So it's not going to shock you. I had two grandmothers. Some people have more. I just had two. And my grandmother, Dolan, that's how the song started out. I have this memory. When I was a kid, my grandmother, if I was sitting next to my grandmother, no matter what else was happening in the family, it was like being in a safe zone. No one would have tried anything around her, not because she was harsh. She was the gentlest woman you ever met. And I remember her hands. And I remember if I was sitting there holding my grandmother's hands in a, in a, and many of you know, I've told you, I, I grew up in a home with two alcoholic parents and five older brothers that had no supervision. Do the math. When I was holding grandmother Dolan's hand, I was safe. It's probably the only experience in childhood I had of safe, was holding that hand. And so I grew up with this deep love for my grandmother, Dolan. And as I started to write the song, I realized, you know, she had, she had an easy, gentle life. I started to realize I will never understand that security and that safety, and I'll always have that love for her. But my grandmother, Kelly, was my hero. In the early 1930s, she was left by her husband and raised two girls alone. In the 30s and in the 40s, in a world that told her she didn't need as much pay as men. And she raised two girls and she saw him through boarding school and she, I mean, and yes, she was a harder woman when she got older. We didn't mess around with grandmother Kelly. Even though she made the best peanut brittle in the world. But you know, and, and, and her daughters, unfortunately, as is so common, their dad took off and they never saw him again and he kind of showed up in adult life. When daddy came to town, everything was wonderful. And when mom, who had been there every day of her life, was there, oh, she kind of irritated them. And I realized she was the hero. And she was the one that used to tell me, and I'd say, because when I started to realize how poor she'd grown, I'd, how do you get through? And she'd always say, you do what's yours to do. It's all you can do. You do what's yours to do. And so I got to thinking, it's that woundedness that connects us. That's the body of Christ. That it is our absolute loss that is our absolute gaining of one another. We don't get that anywhere else. I'm watching these young people all over the world and they're marching and they're not marching because they're triumphant, they're marching because they're wounded. They're wounded. And their wounds will bond them beyond anything we can imagine. Because that's what bonds us. This tether. So today I went back to this song because I had a homily to write. And then you look, you look for distractions. So I thought, you know, it's like when I was in college, when it was time to study for exams, that's when I finally cleaned the dorm. So I thought I'd go back to this song and I got to that same point. And literally, my hands changed keys. And I went to a different place. And it was my image of the body of Christ. But I didn't know it until I'd done it. If I get emotional, I've been a wreck writing for three months. So you'll just have to live. So I got the same chorus. A change in the world and the race isn't done. But we pass the baton to those still able to run. Remember all we've achieved on the shoulders of those who came before us. To begin this fight, we know that we chose. We are part of the unbroken chain of all who've been broken. Lifted by unspoken pain to speak the words that must be spoken. Live a life that's given us. And when we are gone, just like those who came before us, trust who follow will carry on. We'll trust that those who follow will carry on. I started to realize that's who we are. We are the unbroken chain of all who've been broken. We've all been broken. But the chain has not. The connection is not. And actually, it is our brokenness that is the chain. Throughout history, 2,000 years, the chain is not broken. Every link is. So we sometimes I think we look into ourselves for healing. No. It's okay. We grew up in generations that said, look to yourself. Look inside for that strength. It's the chain that is our strength. It is the chain that tethers us to the cross tonight. The unbroken chain of all who've been broken, it tethers us to Christ. It tethers us to Easter. It tethers us to one another. It tethers us to the gospel. 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For those of you who may be visiting, and you feel like you don't know what's going
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on in the service, neither do the Catholics, so it's okay.
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This liturgy takes place once a year, so it's not like our normal mass, so things happen.
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In a minute, we will do the veneration of the cross, which is a very unique ritual in
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our faith, where people come up, and we will have the cross, we'll do a procession with
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it, it's laid out, and people come and they touch the cross, and some take a moment to
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pray, and it reminds us that this moment of loss and death and pain and desolation are
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central to our faith, and it's thrown around so much that we don't always think why, and
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so we hear a lot of odd ideas thrown out in the world as to why Christians are so focused
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to the cross.
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First off, the cross does nothing for us.
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The man on the cross is a different story.
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I think sometimes we just, linguistically, we get talking about the cross.
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The cross is wood.
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The man on the cross, and what happens, and why God comes down to die, and there's a thing
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called atonement theology, which is not my favorite, which is God needed Jesus to suffer
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before he let us off the hook, and it makes Jesus the hero, but you kind of raise an eyebrow
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at God.
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It's an elephant right in the center of our Christianity that no one wants to really say,
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well, what was he saving us from?
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Well, you know, hell.
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Well, who made hell?
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And we start wiggling and getting a little uncomfortable, and it kind of comes down to
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this feeling that Jesus saves us from the wrath of, okay, we don't want to go there.
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What do we do with that absolute paradox in our faith?
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Incarnation theology says Jesus came to die and to suffer because those are experiences
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that God cannot have.
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God can't suffer.
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God can't not know what's happening tomorrow, so God has to empty himself and become like
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us.
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And we could say, you know, we could have told him ahead of time, why would you want
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to come and suffer and die?
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And if you look through history and if you look through your lives, if you look what's
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going on right now in our own culture and around the world, you come to realize something
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very quickly, and that is there is a human bond that happens in suffering that happens
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nowhere else in life.
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You know, triumph is fun, we enjoy it, but it is in the suffering that we really come
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together.
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It's sort of the paradox of our faith.
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I always tell people, especially people who either they're new to the faith or they
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aren't sure, they're new to the parish, and they'll always say things like, well,
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you know, I struggle with this belief and I feel alone.
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When you feel alone, that's when you know you're like everyone else.
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When you feel like you don't fit in, oh, you are one of us.
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That's that paradox.
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And so in our woundedness is the wholeness.
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How do we get there?
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Because that's why we come and we're brave enough to look at the cross.
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Not just because we think, oh, eventually it's resurrection, but because we know when
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we look at the cross, that's where our connection to one another is.
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I'm going to share, I'm not going to sing a song, but I am going to share with you a
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line of a song, so I'm going to make Nick get off the keyboard.
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You know, he comes clear from out of town and I boot him.
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For those of you that don't know, I've been on a, like a craze, writing music lately,
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and I've backed off, not all of you, but I've backed off church music.
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I've been writing church music forever and, you know, other than having five rhymes for
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the word charity, you know, after a while you think I've got to write some different
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lyrics just to keep myself sharp.
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So I thought I'm going to do a cycle of theater songs, of a life, a life that starts and goes
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clear to death, and what's been plaguing me is the last song, the death.
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Because I had this chorus and I knew what I wanted to do with it, I kind of, it started
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out as a tribute to my grandmother Dolan, which quickly became a tribute to my grandmother
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Kelly, I'll tell you.
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But just, what happened is at the very end of this, I was three notes away from being
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able to end this song and go to bed one night, and I finally had to give up.
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And what I had done, because I know a lot of us have felt like in the last few years
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that all the battles we fought in our life, you know, we fought against racism and we
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fought against sexism and we fought against all these isms, and we all of a sudden look
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around and they're on the rise again and we think those mountains that we thought we climbed
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are ahead of us.
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And when did that happen?
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And I kind of wanted to weave that into this last thing about, you know, one of my grandmothers
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used to always say, you know, you do what's yours to do and you trust others.
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You know, even at the end of your life, you didn't get everything done.
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And so I was going to, I was going to end with this, which is this, um...
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And we don't change the whole world and the race isn't done.
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But we pass the baton to those still able to run.
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Remember all we've achieved on the shoulders of those who came before us to begin this
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fight we know that we chose.
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We are, and I couldn't think of the last word.
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We are one just sounded like, you know, I knew I was going there.
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But we are, and it wasn't a religious piece, we are gods, we are peace.
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And I thought, you know, we, my belief there, we're the body of Christ.
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We're this group that's connected through our woundedness.
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And you know, lyrics will drive me up a tree until I find the lyric I want.
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And so I did what anyone would do.
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I forgot about that song and wrote the others.
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And I, and I, the verses were about my grandmother.
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So it's not going to shock you.
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I had two grandmothers.
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Some people have more.
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I just had two.
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And my grandmother, Dolan, that's how the song started out.
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I have this memory.
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When I was a kid, my grandmother, if I was sitting next to my grandmother, no matter
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what else was happening in the family, it was like being in a safe zone.
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No one would have tried anything around her, not because she was harsh.
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She was the gentlest woman you ever met.
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And I remember her hands.
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And I remember if I was sitting there holding my grandmother's hands in a, in a, and many
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of you know, I've told you, I, I grew up in a home with two alcoholic parents and five
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older brothers that had no supervision.
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Do the math.
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When I was holding grandmother Dolan's hand, I was safe.
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It's probably the only experience in childhood I had of safe, was holding that hand.
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And so I grew up with this deep love for my grandmother, Dolan.
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And as I started to write the song, I realized, you know, she had, she had an easy, gentle
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life.
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I started to realize I will never understand that security and that safety, and I'll always
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have that love for her.
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But my grandmother, Kelly, was my hero.
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In the early 1930s, she was left by her husband and raised two girls alone.
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In the 30s and in the 40s, in a world that told her she didn't need as much pay as men.
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And she raised two girls and she saw him through boarding school and she, I mean, and yes,
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she was a harder woman when she got older.
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We didn't mess around with grandmother Kelly.
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Even though she made the best peanut brittle in the world.
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But you know, and, and, and her daughters, unfortunately, as is so common, their dad
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took off and they never saw him again and he kind of showed up in adult life.
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When daddy came to town, everything was wonderful.
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And when mom, who had been there every day of her life, was there, oh, she kind of irritated
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them.
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And I realized she was the hero.
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And she was the one that used to tell me, and I'd say, because when I started to realize
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how poor she'd grown, I'd, how do you get through?
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And she'd always say, you do what's yours to do.
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It's all you can do.
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You do what's yours to do.
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And so I got to thinking, it's that woundedness that connects us.
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That's the body of Christ.
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That it is our absolute loss that is our absolute gaining of one another.
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We don't get that anywhere else.
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I'm watching these young people all over the world and they're marching and they're not
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marching because they're triumphant, they're marching because they're wounded.
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They're wounded.
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And their wounds will bond them beyond anything we can imagine.
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Because that's what bonds us.
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This tether.
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So today I went back to this song because I had a homily to write.
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And then you look, you look for distractions.
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So I thought, you know, it's like when I was in college, when it was time to study for
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exams, that's when I finally cleaned the dorm.
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So I thought I'd go back to this song and I got to that same point.
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And literally, my hands changed keys.
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And I went to a different place.
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And it was my image of the body of Christ.
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But I didn't know it until I'd done it.
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If I get emotional, I've been a wreck writing for three months.
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So you'll just have to live.
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So I got the same chorus.
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A change in the world and the race isn't done.
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But we pass the baton to those still able to run.
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Remember all we've achieved on the shoulders of those who came before us.
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To begin this fight, we know that we chose.
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We are part of the unbroken chain of all who've been broken.
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Lifted by unspoken pain to speak the words that must be spoken.
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Live a life that's given us.
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And when we are gone, just like those who came before us, trust who follow will carry on.
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We'll trust that those who follow will carry on.
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I started to realize that's who we are.
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We are the unbroken chain of all who've been broken.
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We've all been broken.
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But the chain has not.
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The connection is not.
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And actually, it is our brokenness that is the chain.
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Throughout history, 2,000 years, the chain is not broken.
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Every link is.
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So we sometimes I think we look into ourselves for healing.
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No.
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It's okay.
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We grew up in generations that said, look to yourself.
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Look inside for that strength.
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It's the chain that is our strength.
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It is the chain that tethers us to the cross tonight.
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The unbroken chain of all who've been broken, it tethers us to Christ.
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It tethers us to Easter.
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It tethers us to one another.
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It tethers us to the gospel.
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And we can look it in the face tonight because it tethers us to the resurrection.
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Father Pat’s message is a powerful meditation on t Father Pat’s message is a powerful meditation on the paradox at the heart of the Christian faith: that suffering, loss, and brokenness are not signs of separation from God or one another, but the very means by which we are united, to each other and to Christ. He emphasizes that it is not the wooden cross that saves, but the man upon it—Jesus—who entered into human suffering not to appease divine wrath, but to fully participate in our human condition. By reflecting on personal experiences, the legacy of his grandmothers, and the communal ritual of the veneration of the cross, Father Pat invites us to recognize that our wounds form the chain that connects us across generations and into the body of Christ. In our brokenness, we find communion, and in communion, we find resurrection.
Father Pat’s homily explores the deep spiritual meaning of Good Friday, focusing on the ritual of the veneration of the cross. He begins by disarming any discomfort visitors may feel by humorously noting that even regular churchgoers can feel unsure during such a unique liturgy. But this disorientation serves as an entry point into the deeper theme: that Christianity hinges on a powerful paradox. Central to the faith is the suffering and death of Jesus—not because God required pain as a prerequisite for forgiveness (a critique he levels at certain atonement theologies), but because God, in Christ, chose to enter into the fullness of human experience, including its pain. This is Incarnation Theology: that God emptied Himself to know what it means to suffer, to be abandoned, to die.
Father Pat challenges simplistic or punitive interpretations of the crucifixion. He invites listeners to consider not the cross as an object, but the person on it. He critiques the notion that Jesus died to save us from God’s wrath, since that would raise troubling questions about the nature of God. Instead, he presents Jesus' suffering as a profound act of divine solidarity with humanity. It is in suffering that human beings most deeply connect, and this shared woundedness forms a sacred bond. In moments of desolation, we are not alone—we are most connected. This is the paradox: our wholeness is found in our woundedness, our unity in our brokenness.
To illustrate this truth, Father Pat shares a personal journey through songwriting, inspired by his grandmothers. One grandmother offered him a sense of safety and gentleness; the other, strength and resilience in the face of hardship. Through these stories, he reflects on how the struggles and sacrifices of past generations shape our present. His grandmother Kelly’s mantra—“You do what’s yours to do”—becomes a spiritual compass, reminding us that our contribution, however incomplete, is part of a larger, ongoing chain of faith and justice.
This leads into the metaphor that becomes the heart of his reflection: "We are part of the unbroken chain of all who've been broken." In this poetic image—culminating in the song lyrics he shares—he expresses a theology that sees brokenness not as something to be avoided or hidden, but as the very structure that connects us across time and space, grounding us in the body of Christ. The chain is unbroken not because its links are whole, but because its broken links are joined in compassion, memory, and hope.
Ultimately, Father Pat invites us to see the veneration of the cross not merely as a ritual of mourning, but as one of connection. To approach the cross is to acknowledge our pain and the pain of others. It is to recognize that through Christ’s suffering and death, we are tethered—to God, to one another, to the communion of saints, and to the promise of resurrection. The chain of the broken is not a symbol of defeat, but of sacred continuity. In this chain, we are held, healed, and made whole....
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