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{"task": "transcribe", "language": "english", "duration": 1039.3599853515625, "text": "The Lord be with you. And with your spirit. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to John. Glory to you, O Lord. On the evening of that first day of the week, when the doors were locked where the disciples were for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in their midst and said to them, Peace be with you. When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. The disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them, Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you. And when they had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, Receive the Holy Spirit, whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained. Thomas, called Didymus, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came. So the other disciples said to him, We have seen the Lord. But he said to them, Unless I see the mark of the nails in his hand and put my finger into the nail marks and put my hand into his side, I will not believe. Now a week later, his disciples were again inside and Thomas was with them. Jesus came, although the doors were locked, and stood in their midst and said, Peace be with you. Then he said to Thomas, Put your finger here and see my hands, and bring your hand and put it into my side and do not be unbelieving, but believe. Thomas answered and said to him, My Lord and my God. Jesus said to him, Have you come to believe because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed. Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of his disciples that are not written in this book, but these are written so that you may come to believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that through this belief you may have life in his name. The Gospel of the Lord. Praise to you, Lord Jesus Christ. I can still hear one of my catechism teachers saying, Now don't be a doubting Thomas. It's the worst nickname given in history. Why do we even think of that? Doubting Thomas. No one ever talks about squabbling James and John. Certainly no one ever talks about denying Peter, also known as sinking Peter, also known as get thee behind me Satan Peter. But doubting Thomas. And so why? What was the horrible thing about his doubt? Well, because of his doubt, they had to endure a second visit from Jesus. What is the... When we read this story, because I think we have flipped this story on its head over the years to somehow make Thomas sort of a not quite the villain, but he's the dark edge of the story. And the others are all the heroes of the story. And why? Do you really think there's enough ego that the others in the room would say to themselves, Well, if I had been in that position, I'd have believed. There might be enough ego to get them there. We might have enough ego to get ourselves there. But picture the actual scene, and you know, I always think of, you know, if you got back and someone who you dearly loved had passed away, and you get back, say walk in on 11 of your frat brothers, and they say, We just saw Jesus. What's your first reaction? I knew this would happen when they legalized marijuana. What's your first reaction? Because if your first reaction is, I believe there's probably something wrong with you. Think about it. You've all lost people. If someone came to you and said, I saw him yesterday, they came back from the dead. Your first reaction is to go, Great! So, what is our issue with Thomas? I think the world needs more Thomases. Because, and the reason I think the story gets told is to kind of say, Oh, blessed are those people who just swallow whatever they're given, and don't ask questions. You can see, I mean, you can already see some early inklings in John's writing. Remember, John's writing is going to be, Oh, some would put it as late as a good 70 years after the resurrection. So, you have little hints like when John says, We're all gathered in this room for fear of the Jews. That is a horrible line. It's an awful line. Everyone in that little room was Jewish. The story only happens because one of the Jews got through. Jesus. So to refer to the people outside the room as the Jews, it's like saying that there is an undocumented person who is in a church, in sanctuary on the south end of this town, and she's there hiding from the Christians. It's true. Most of these ICE agents are Christian. Many of the people behind it at least claim to be Christian. But the people in the church helping her are also Christian. She is also Christian. So to refer to them as Christians would be coloring the story pretty dramatically and for an ugly intent. And that's what we get when we hear, Oh, for fear of the Jews. You can see this early anti-Semitism that only took 70 years to creep in. So, you know, you definitely have that sense that there is an agenda to the story which is, Oh, we don't want anyone doubting us, but there's a deeper journey that Thomas goes through from what in the legal jargon of the day and really in our own culture's legal jargon, he goes from being an unacceptable hearsay witness to a real witness. A real witness can tell you what they've seen, what they've heard. We're all called to be witnesses of faith, and most of us settle for being hearsay. Well, what do we believe? I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth. No, that's what a bunch of people in 325 believed. You know, I believe in consubstantiation. Let me look it up first and then I'll believe in it. We believe in words we don't even use. And we're not very in touch with what we've witnessed in our life. How we've seen faith work around us. We're not really good at getting in touch with our life of faith. You know, there are people who, you know, at Easter and Christmas we always talk about people who, oh, they didn't come to church since Christmas. And it's not a legal issue. It's not, oh, well, now they're in sin and they have to get to confession. Okay, there are people who that's their approach to church and maybe that's as far as they can get. But the real issue is, if they aren't part of the community, if the community isn't drawing them in on a regular basis, you almost wonder what the exercise of faith is. I like to stop in a couple times a year so people can tell me what I believe. Really? If you're not connected to the community, if the community's behavior isn't preaching God, then what connects people to faith? Most of us have very subtly and quietly rewritten our own faith history. Now there are those who have gone through different types of conversion in their life, but for most of us, we like to sort of heroically talk about our faith is the true faith, as though we went through some moment where we really understood our faith and came to this centered, grounded moment and experience of God, rather than the fact that most, the vast majority of us are Catholic because our parents were. We're Catholic through inertia. It doesn't sound quite as heroic. It doesn't give us quite that moral superiority in the world. You know? It's like when someone says, I'm proud to be an American. I mean, I get that you like the country, but most people who say that, I always want to say, and how did you accomplish that? I was born in the right place. I didn't do it. I never became an American. I know nothing else. That's, you know, American through inertia, which is okay. That's how most of us are. But then to put ourselves on a high horse and say, well, I belong to the right faith, it's kind of a tribalism. It's an arrogance that we shouldn't have, and we've rewritten our history to get there. We've told ourselves that there was a moment where we decided to become Christian. Now, many people do go through a moment where they decide to become Christian, or they're one, you know, flavor of Christian and decide to become Catholic. Those also happen most often through relationship. It's not, I was in a bookstore and the lives of the saints called to me and told me to be Catholic. I met people I trusted, my family, there are people in my life, and those relationships and seeing faith work in their lives brought me to a belief that this was a good community for me as well. It's very difficult for us to sort out how we get our truth. We've got, in this day and age, we've got our science and our religion so mixed up we don't know what to do. Science, religion, and most of us, quite frankly, science and religion are both secondary, politics comes first. I mean, you can now, especially when you get into issues like global warming, you can figure out someone's scientific approach by knowing their political tribe. I mean, most of us do not have we have minor knowledge of science. We have faith in scientists. You know, when a scientist, when they tell me that space is curved and the shortest distance between two points is no longer a straight line, I'm going to have to take that on faith. I do not see it. I'm going to have to assume they're smarter than me. I have to assume that about people a lot in the world, but but, you know, I mean, I don't see it. You know, when they get into string theory and tell me that things actually behave differently than we see, we either take that on theory or not. Most of us go to doctors all the time. And a doctor will tell us, here's what's wrong with you and here's the medicine. Now, there are those who will go out and research and research and research if it's important. I doubt there's any of you that, you know, that the OCD is so out of control that you go research before you take the antibiotic for your strep throat. But, do antibiotics help? I don't know. So, I trust the people I trust. Trust is always relationship based. And knowledge, we can go out and research, but knowledge is hard. It takes time. So, you know, there is some good that comes out of it. You know, I have, I have what I would consider the average American amount of knowledge when it comes to medicine. I've gotten most of my schooling in medicine from ER, Grey's Anatomy, and House. I wouldn't come to me for any surgical issues, you know. But think of all of us. Most of us got our legal training from Law and Order and Judge Judy. Now, what does it mean when, and I would say usually about six out of the nine fall into this, what does it mean when you look at the nine Supreme Court Justices, supposedly the best legal minds in the country, and you and I, who have seen a couple episodes of Law and Order, at least six of them we can usually tell ahead of time what their decision's going to be. Tells me they're probably not doing law, they're doing politics. We know that. Because if they were doing law, you and I, most of us would not have a clue where they're going to land. Because they're experts and we're not. But if someone says, oh, they're red, they're blue, those three are real problems. We're suspicious that they might be doing law. So I don't know what their answer will be. Most of us, where do we get our truth? How do we discover it? There is a level at which our faith is our communal experience of God. And so we do want to be part of the group that goes out and does work in the world, that goes out and does works of faith. Otherwise, we're just checking in to have someone else tell us what we believe and we walk out as a hearsay witness. You know, Thomas moves. He could have stayed in that first week. He could have gone, alright, if you guys say so. And he'd have been a hearsay witness his whole life. Instead, he stays and he asks questions. And he challenges. And he doesn't agree with everything until he's given his own experience of faith. Now he's a real witness. Most of us won't get the Jesus experience, but it doesn't mean we should take ourselves out of the equation, out of the fight. Most of us, you know, are content to be a little bit hearsay. What is a sacrament? Well, it's an outward sign of an inward grace in which the effective grace... Do you believe that? I'm not sure I even understand it. What is a sacrament? Tell me your experience of it. How has it changed your life? What does it do to us as a community? Why are people who have no idea of our faith see the baptism celebration and say, I want my child to go through that? Because they see the reaction of a community. I may have told you the story of Bill Breslin at Queen of Peace years ago, pastor there. I really do believe in a parish twice this size, he knew every single name. He couldn't get them with the right face, but he knew every single name. And he was really very good at it, but he saw these two people and he knew he recognized them at the parish picnic and he thought... And it's the first time I ever just saw him very honestly fess up and say, I know we see each other all the time. I don't remember your names. Oh, Bob and Ginny. Come on over. He felt so bad that he wanted to really make sure he knew them. So he gets them over at his table and if you've ever sat at a parish picnic with the pastor, you meet everyone in the parish within a few hours. Because everyone comes up and he was so excited. This is Bob and Ginny because he knew their names now. This is Bob and Ginny. And he could also use them. So when he didn't know your name, he'd say, Oh, this is Bob and Ginny. And if he didn't say anything, they'd say, Hi, we're Pete. And, you know, he'd get their names. And just his interactions with the people and their interactions with him. Turned out Bob and Ginny were just walking by. They weren't part of the parish. He recognized them because they lived down the street from us. And we saw him walk every morning. Two months later, they started the process of joining the church. They encountered the community. Whatever this faith is, this is what it's building. This is who my family is. It's why when Catholics come out of severely damaged families, they sometimes leave the faith. It's less often about church and more often about family. We all rebel against family in some ways. So everyone has those moments, but we want to be a community in the world that when people encounter the community, they can have an encounter of faith and of Christ that they can witness to rather than we'll teach them and they'll go out and do hearsay. The church doesn't need any more hearsay witnesses. What we need are people who experience their faith and we as a community have to help them to do that. To experience seeing God in the moment. To experience salvation in a community. To experience acceptance and love of more and more and more people. 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The Lord be with you.

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And with your spirit.

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A reading from the Holy Gospel according to John.

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Glory to you, O Lord.

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On the evening of that first day of the week,

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when the doors were locked where the disciples were

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for fear of the Jews,

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Jesus came and stood in their midst and said to them,

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Peace be with you.

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When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side.

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The disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord.

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Jesus said to them, Peace be with you.

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As the Father has sent me, so I send you.

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And when they had said this,

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he breathed on them and said to them,

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Receive the Holy Spirit,

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whose sins you forgive are forgiven them,

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and whose sins you retain are retained.

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Thomas, called Didymus, one of the twelve,

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was not with them when Jesus came.

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So the other disciples said to him,

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We have seen the Lord.

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But he said to them,

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Unless I see the mark of the nails in his hand

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and put my finger into the nail marks

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and put my hand into his side,

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I will not believe.

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Now a week later,

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his disciples were again inside

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and Thomas was with them.

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Jesus came,

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although the doors were locked,

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and stood in their midst and said,

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Peace be with you.

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Then he said to Thomas,

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Put your finger here and see my hands,

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and bring your hand and put it into my side

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and do not be unbelieving, but believe.

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Thomas answered and said to him,

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My Lord and my God.

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Jesus said to him,

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Have you come to believe because you have seen me?

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Blessed are those who have not seen

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and have believed.

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Now Jesus did many other signs

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in the presence of his disciples that are not written

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in this book, but these are written

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so that you may come to believe that Jesus is the Christ,

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the Son of God,

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and that through this belief you may have life

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in his name.

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The Gospel of the Lord.

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Praise to you, Lord Jesus Christ.

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I can still hear

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one of my catechism teachers

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saying, Now don't be a doubting Thomas.

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It's the worst

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nickname given in history.

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Why do we even

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think of that? Doubting Thomas.

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No one ever talks about

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squabbling James and John.

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Certainly no one ever

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talks about denying Peter, also known as

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sinking Peter, also known as get thee behind me

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Satan Peter.

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But doubting Thomas.

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And so why?

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What was the horrible thing about his

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doubt? Well, because of his

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doubt, they had to endure

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a second visit from Jesus.

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What is the...

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When we read this story, because I think we have

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flipped this story on its head over the years

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to somehow make

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Thomas sort of a

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not quite the villain, but

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he's the dark edge of the story.

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And the others are all the heroes of the story.

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And why?

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Do you really think there's enough ego

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that the others in the room would say

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to themselves, Well, if I

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had been in that position, I'd have believed.

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There might be enough

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ego to get them there.

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We might have enough ego to get ourselves there.

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But picture

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the actual scene, and

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you know, I always think of, you know,

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if you got back and someone

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who you dearly loved had

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passed away, and you get

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back, say walk in on

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11 of your frat brothers,

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and they say,

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We just saw Jesus.

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What's your first reaction?

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I knew

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this would happen when they legalized marijuana.

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What's

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your first reaction?

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Because if your first reaction

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is, I believe

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there's probably something wrong with you.

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Think about it.

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You've all lost people.

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If someone came to you and said, I saw him

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yesterday, they came back from the dead.

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Your first reaction is to go, Great!

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So, what is our issue

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with Thomas?

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I think the world needs more

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Thomases.

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Because, and the reason

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I think the story gets told is to kind of say,

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Oh, blessed are those

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people who just

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swallow whatever they're given,

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and don't ask questions.

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You can see,

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I mean, you can already see some early

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inklings in John's writing.

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Remember, John's writing is going to be,

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Oh,

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some would put it as late as a good 70 years

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after the resurrection.

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So, you have little hints

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like when John says,

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We're all gathered in this room for fear of the

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Jews.

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That is a horrible line.

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It's an awful line.

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Everyone in that little room was Jewish.

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The story only happens

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because one of the Jews got

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through. Jesus.

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So to refer to the people outside

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the room as the Jews,

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it's like saying that

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there is

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an undocumented person

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who is in a church,

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in sanctuary on the south end of this town,

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and she's there hiding from

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the Christians.

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It's true.

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Most of these ICE agents

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are Christian.

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Many of the people behind it at least claim to be

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Christian.

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But the people in the church helping her are also

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Christian. She is also

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Christian. So to refer to them as Christians

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would be coloring the story

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pretty dramatically

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and for an ugly intent.

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And that's what we get when we hear,

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Oh, for fear of the Jews.

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You can see this early anti-Semitism

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that only took 70 years to creep in.

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So, you know,

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you definitely have

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that sense that there is

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an agenda to the story which is,

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Oh, we don't want

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anyone doubting us, but

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there's a deeper journey

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that Thomas goes through from

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what in the legal

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jargon of the day

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and really in our own culture's

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legal jargon, he goes

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from being an

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unacceptable hearsay

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witness to a real witness.

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A real witness can

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tell you what they've seen, what they've heard.

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We're all called to be witnesses

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of faith, and most

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of us settle for being

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hearsay. Well,

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what do we believe? I believe in one God, the

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Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth. No, that's what a bunch

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of people in 325 believed.

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You know, I believe in

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consubstantiation. Let me look it up

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first and then I'll believe in it.

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We believe in words we don't even use.

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And we're

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not very in touch with

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what we've witnessed in our life.

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How we've seen faith work

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around us. We're not

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really good at getting in touch

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with our life of faith.

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You know, there are people who, you know, at Easter

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and Christmas we always talk about people who,

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oh, they didn't come to church since Christmas.

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And it's not a legal

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issue. It's not, oh, well, now they're in sin

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and they have to get to confession.

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Okay, there are people who that's their approach to church

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and maybe that's as far as they can get.

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But the real issue

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is, if they aren't part of

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the community, if the community isn't drawing

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them in on a regular basis,

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you almost wonder what the exercise

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of faith is. I like to

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stop in a couple times a year so people can tell

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me what I believe.

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Really?

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If you're not connected to the community,

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if the community's behavior

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isn't preaching God,

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then what connects people

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to faith? Most of us

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have very

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subtly and quietly

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rewritten our own faith history.

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Now there are those who have gone

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through different types of conversion in their

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life, but for most of us,

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we like to sort of

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heroically talk about our faith is the

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true faith, as though we went

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through some moment where we

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really understood

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our faith and came to this

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centered, grounded moment and experience

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of God, rather than the fact

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that most, the vast majority

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of us are Catholic because our parents

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were. We're

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Catholic through inertia.

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It doesn't

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sound quite as heroic.

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It doesn't give us quite that moral

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superiority in the world.

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You know?

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It's like when someone says, I'm proud

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to be an American. I mean, I get that you like

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the country, but most people who say that,

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I always want to say, and how did you accomplish

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that?

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I was born in the right place.

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I didn't

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do it. I never became

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an American. I know nothing else.

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That's, you know, American

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through inertia,

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which is okay. That's how most of us are.

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But then to put ourselves

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on a high horse and say, well, I belong to the right

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faith, it's kind of a

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tribalism. It's an arrogance

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that we shouldn't have, and we've rewritten

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our history to get there. We've

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told ourselves that there was a moment

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where we decided to become

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Christian. Now, many people do go through

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a moment where they decide to become Christian, or

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they're one, you know, flavor of

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Christian and decide to become Catholic.

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Those also happen

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most often through relationship.

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It's not, I was in

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a bookstore and the lives of the saints

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called to me and told me to be Catholic.

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I met people I trusted,

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my family, there are people in my life, and

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those relationships

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and seeing faith work in their

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lives brought

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me to a belief that this was a good

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community for me as well.

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It's very difficult

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for us to sort out

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how we get our truth.

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We've got, in this day and age,

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we've got our science and our

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religion so mixed up we don't know what to do.

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Science, religion,

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and most of us, quite frankly,

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science and religion are both

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secondary, politics comes first.

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I mean, you can now,

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especially when you get into

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issues like global warming, you can figure

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out someone's scientific approach by

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knowing their political tribe.

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I mean,

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most of us do not have

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we have

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minor knowledge of science.

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We have faith in scientists.

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You know, when a scientist,

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when they tell me that space

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is curved and the shortest distance between

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two points is no longer a straight line,

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I'm going to have to take that on faith.

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I do not see it.

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I'm going to have to assume

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they're smarter than me.

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I have to assume that about people

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a lot in the world, but

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but, you know, I mean,

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I don't see it.

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You know, when they get into

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string theory and tell me that

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things actually behave differently than we see,

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we either take that on theory or not.

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Most of us go to doctors all the time.

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And a doctor will tell us,

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here's what's wrong with you and here's

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the medicine.

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Now, there are those who will go out and

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research and research and research

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if it's important.

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I doubt there's any of you

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that, you know, that the OCD is

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so out of control that you go research before

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you take the antibiotic for your strep throat.

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But,

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do antibiotics help? I don't know.

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So, I trust

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the people I trust.

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Trust is always relationship

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based.

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And knowledge, we can go out and research, but

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knowledge is hard. It takes time.

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So, you know, there is some good that comes out

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of it. You know, I have,

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I have what I would consider

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the average American amount

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of knowledge when it comes to medicine.

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I've gotten most of my

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schooling in medicine from

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ER, Grey's Anatomy, and House.

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I wouldn't come to me for any surgical

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issues, you know.

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But think of all of us.

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Most of us got our

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legal training from Law and Order and

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Judge Judy.

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Now, what does it mean

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when, and I would say

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usually about six out of the nine

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fall into this, what does it mean when you look

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at the nine

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Supreme Court Justices, supposedly

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the best legal

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minds in the country,

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and you and I, who have seen a couple

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episodes of Law and Order,

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at least six of them we can usually tell

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ahead of time what their decision's

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going to be.

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Tells me they're probably not doing law, they're doing

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politics. We know that.

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Because if they were doing law, you and

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I, most of us would not have a clue

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where they're going to land. Because

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they're experts and we're not.

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But if someone says, oh, they're red,

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they're blue, those three are

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real problems. We're

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suspicious that they might be doing law.

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So I

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don't know what their answer will be.

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Most of us,

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where do we get our truth?

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How do we discover it? There is

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a level at which our faith

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is our communal

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experience of God.

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And so we do want to be part

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of the group that goes out

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and does work in the world, that goes out and does

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works of faith.

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Otherwise, we're just

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checking in to have someone else tell us

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what we believe and we walk out

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as a hearsay witness.

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You know,

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Thomas moves. He could have stayed

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in that first week. He could have gone,

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alright, if you guys say so. And he'd have been

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a hearsay witness his whole life.

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Instead, he stays and he asks

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questions. And he

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challenges. And he doesn't agree

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with everything until

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he's given his own experience of faith.

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Now he's a real witness.

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Most of us won't get the Jesus

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experience, but it doesn't mean we should take

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ourselves out of the equation,

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out of the fight.

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Most of us, you know,

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are content to be a little bit

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hearsay. What is a sacrament?

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Well, it's an outward sign of an inward grace in which

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the effective grace...

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Do you believe that? I'm not sure I even understand

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it.

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What is a sacrament? Tell me your

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experience of it. How has it changed your life?

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What does it do to us as a community?

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Why are people who have no

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idea of our faith see the baptism celebration

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and say, I want my child to go through that?

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Because they see the reaction of a community.

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I may have told you the story

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of Bill Breslin at Queen of Peace

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years ago, pastor there.

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I really do believe

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in a parish twice this size, he knew

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every single name.

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He couldn't get them with the right face, but he knew

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every single name.

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And he was

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really very good at it, but

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he saw these two people and he knew he recognized

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them at the parish picnic and he thought...

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And it's the first time I ever just saw him very honestly

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fess up and say,

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I know we see each other all the time.

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I don't remember your names.

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Oh, Bob and Ginny.

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Come on over. He felt so bad that he wanted

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to really make sure he knew them. So he gets them

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over at his table and if you've ever sat at a

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parish picnic with the pastor,

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you meet everyone in the parish within a few

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hours. Because everyone comes up

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and he was so excited. This is Bob and Ginny

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because he knew their names now. This is Bob

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and Ginny. And he could also use them.

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So when he didn't know your name, he'd say,

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Oh, this is Bob and Ginny.

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And if he didn't say anything, they'd say, Hi, we're Pete.

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And, you know, he'd get their names.

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And just his interactions

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with the people and their interactions with him.

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Turned out Bob and Ginny were just walking by.

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They weren't part of the parish.

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He recognized them because they lived

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down the street from us.

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And we saw him walk every morning.

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Two months later, they started

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the process of joining the church.

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They encountered the community.

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Whatever this faith is, this is what it's building.

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This is who my family is.

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It's why when Catholics come out

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of severely damaged families,

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they sometimes leave the faith.

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It's less often about church

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and more often about family.

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We all rebel

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against family in some ways.

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So everyone has

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those moments, but we

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want to be a community in the world

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that when people encounter the community,

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they can have an encounter

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of faith and of Christ

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that they can witness to

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rather than we'll teach them and they'll go out

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and do hearsay.

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The church doesn't

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need any more hearsay witnesses.

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What we need are people

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who experience their faith

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and we as a community have to help them to do that.

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To experience seeing

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God in the moment. To experience

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salvation in a community. To experience

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acceptance and love of more

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and more and more people.

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I think

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the less hearsay we can do

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and the more faith we can truly

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witness and share,

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the larger the church gets

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and more importantly,

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the more connected to Christ.

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Father Pat’s message centers on the transformative power of authentic, experiential faith over passive, inherited belief. He challenges the negative portrayal of “Doubting Thomas,” suggesting instead that Thomas represents a model for genuine discipleship—one that seeks personal encounter with Christ rather than relying solely on secondhand testimony. Father Pat critiques the ways in which many Christians, particularly Catholics, have come to rely on rote tradition and inherited identity, rather than personal experience and active engagement with a faith community. Through humor, historical insight, and pastoral reflection, he encourages believers to move from being “hearsay witnesses” to true witnesses of the living Christ, shaped by relationship, community, and lived experience.

In a deeper analysis of the homily, Father Pat begins with a reframing of the popular narrative surrounding Thomas the Apostle. Rather than condemning Thomas for his doubt, he portrays him as someone who had the courage to demand a personal encounter with Jesus—an act of integrity rather than weakness. Father Pat suggests that labeling Thomas as “doubting” is unfair, especially when we overlook the failures of other apostles, such as Peter’s denial or the ambition of James and John. Thomas, in fact, becomes the model of a true witness: not content to believe on the basis of others’ claims, he seeks truth through direct experience, and when he receives it, he makes the most profound confession of faith in the Gospel: “My Lord and my God.”

This contrast between hearsay and witness becomes the central metaphor for Father Pat’s critique of contemporary Christian practice. He argues that many believers simply inherit their faith through family or culture without ever deeply engaging in the transformative relationship that faith is meant to foster. Faith, in this context, is sustained by inertia, not by conviction or encounter. He likens this to national or cultural identity—many people are “proud to be American,” but that pride is often unearned, based on birthplace rather than achievement. Similarly, many Catholics claim their faith as a badge of honor without ever having chosen it intentionally or experienced its life-changing power.

Father Pat also challenges the Church’s tendency to emphasize doctrinal knowledge over relational faith. Reciting creeds and catechism definitions without understanding or experience, he suggests, turns believers into parrots of religious hearsay. Instead, he calls for a faith that is rooted in real-life encounters with grace, community, and the presence of God in the ordinary. He questions the effectiveness of a sacramental theology that is not embodied in community life, arguing that the visible celebration of sacraments—like baptism—can draw people to faith not because of theological explanations, but because of the witness of a loving, vibrant, and inclusive community.

He also addresses how language and historical context shape the Gospel narratives. He points out the problematic phrase “for fear of the Jews” in John’s Gospel, noting how this reflects an early Christian tendency toward anti-Jewish sentiment, even though Jesus and all his disciples were themselves Jewish. This, he argues, is a warning about how easily religion can be co-opted by tribalism, exclusion, and self-righteousness. The danger lies not only in rewriting history but in using faith to create boundaries rather than bridges.

Father Pat extends this critique to the broader cultural and political context, noting how both science and religion are often subordinated to political identity. He observes that for many people, truth is not pursued through rigorous inquiry or spiritual discernment, but is inherited from political tribes. Just as people trust doctors or scientists based on reputation or political alignment rather than deep understanding, so too do many accept religious doctrines without personal reflection or lived experience. True faith, he contends, requires relationship, trust, and the hard work of seeking, questioning, and witnessing.

In the end, Father Pat calls the Church to be a community that fosters real encounters with Christ, especially through love, service, and inclusion. He shares a story of a couple who were drawn to faith not by doctrine, but by the warmth and authenticity of a parish community. Their conversion was relational, not intellectual. This, he suggests, is the Church at its best—a place where people can experience the presence of God through others and come to faith not out of obligation or tradition, but through the compelling witness of a living, breathing body of Christ.

Ultimately, Father Pat’s message is a call to move from passive belief to active discipleship. Like Thomas, we are invited to ask questions, seek encounter, and proclaim Christ not because we’ve been told to, but because we have seen and experienced Him ourselves. The world does not need more Christians who recite doctrine—it needs more people who live out their faith in ways that are tangible, credible, and transformative.

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