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{"task": "transcribe", "language": "english", "duration": 1122.449951171875, "text": "The Lord be with you. And with your spirit. A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Mark. Glory to you, O Lord. They then came to Capernaum, and on the Sabbath, Jesus entered the synagogue and taught. The people were astonished at his teaching, for he taught them as one having authority and not as the scribes. In their synagogue was a man with an unclean spirit. He cried out, what have you to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are, the Holy One of God. Jesus rebuked him and said, quiet, come out of him. The unclean spirit convulsed him and with a loud cry came out of him. All were amazed and asked one another, what is this, a new teaching with authority? He commands even the unclean spirits, and they obey him. His fame spread everywhere throughout the whole region of Galilee. The Gospel of the Lord. Praise to you, Lord Jesus Christ. I'm not sure that there is a Sunday in the entire liturgical cycle with three readings that have less to do with one another than today. We have three readings on completely different topics. And I have also never been in any Bible study anywhere where any of these were quoted as anyone's favorite scripture. They're all kind of quirky in their own way. But they give us together, in a sense, they do give us three voices which can balance us and give us a method for moving forward and growing in our Christian faith. And sometimes that is the greatest thing scripture can do for us. Sometimes the great thing that scripture does, it doesn't paint an absolute picture of something. It tells you one story of God where he says, let there be light, and there's light. And another story where God comes down and shapes us out of the clay and says, clearly that one's too human and that one may be too austere. Find something between there. Live with the tension of the two stories that don't line up. Scripture does that for us a lot. Today, we get three different visions of interactions with faith. I want to start with the one that is most fun, that second reading. Because I saw so many of you, so many expressions of really? Paul is his personality. St. Paul is a zealot. That is his basic personality. Before he becomes Paul, when he is on the side against Jesus and the early Christians, he is all in. He is on the move. He is going to route them out. He is going to get rid of them. And when he becomes Christian, he is going to route out everyone else, and he's going to make sure everyone's Christian. Paul is probably, my suspicion, exhausting to be around. But he's that person you would put in charge of every building campaign, because he would get it done. Paul is very much what we would call a man of action. Of all the things that people can say about St. Paul, no one can ever claim that he did not back up his preaching with the way he lived. I mean, this became his life. Almost to an obsessive focus, that became his life. So much so that, yes, we get a reading like today. In Paul's mind, the world divides neatly into two groups of people. Those who are single, and as we know, single people spend every moment of the day obsessed with how they can please God. Would that it were so. But there are dating websites that would seem to indicate otherwise. So he's got one group of people that he thinks, if you're not married, then you're anxious about God all day long. Paul is anxious about, he is consumed by it. It's not the normal experience. I think we should all have a little more Paul in us, not too much, but all have a little more. Then he also, and this is truly a view from the other side of the fence, spouses spend 24 hours a day obsessed with pleasing one another. That is one of those moments where my mother would say, Paul was never married. Paul was never married. But it's his vision, and it's kind of his vision of how he wishes the world were. Wouldn't it be interesting, but take out the marriage piece as such a hard defined line there, and think, what would it be like to live in a world where everyone was either consumed with pleasing God or consumed with pleasing others? It's not a bad vision of the world, really out to help others, really out to do what is best for others, really out to do what is best for the mission of God. It's not a bad vision, but it's so focused, and it so comes out of his that it has some limited help for most of us. But the other two visions stand, in my mind, like bookends to where our Christian debate, where our philosophies, where everything sort of lands. And that is the prophet and the unclean spirits. Now, this story of the unclean spirits, there's several variations of it in the gospel. There's evil spirits, demonic spirits, there's one, there's a dozen. One of the mysteries that scripture scholars deal with a lot is, it seems that these are the first people to recognize who Jesus is, not even people. Now, why is it that they recognize Jesus before everyone else? Now, when they say that, they're forgetting about Simeon and Anna, the prophetess and prophet at his birth, at his christening, that recognize him for who he is. But why is it that these unclean spirits, before the general population, why are they always the first ones, it seems, in the story to recognize who Jesus is? And scholars come up with all sorts of reasons and all sorts of ideas, but there's a level at which it makes great sense to me that they would be the first. Because it is the nature of darkness, it is the nature of, whether we call it unclean or evil or whatever, the demonic, it is the nature of that dynamic to recognize enemies. And Jesus stands as their enemy. And all of us have a bit of that in us. All of us are much better at figuring out who our enemy is in the world. And not so good at figuring out where the common ground is. You know, we look at people in other countries and we forget that they go through all the same messes we go through. Around the world, fathers cry at daughters' weddings. You know, around the world, these things happen. And it's so much easier for us to focus on the differences. And that is where we are just like these unclean spirits. They see Jesus, not because they have an innate ability to see God, but because they have an innate ability to see what is different from them. They will recognize the person set against them. And so, you know, what we need to become are people that recognize God because the goodness in us sees what the affinity is, not the other way. Not because, you know, fear of hell and that sort of approach. There's a lot of people who their belief in God comes out of their belief in evil. And how we're gonna overcome it. How we're gonna get rid of that. How we're gonna make sure those people are, that is the unclean spirit recognizing God. It is not the prophet. Now the prophet does the opposite. The prophet takes that part of us that already resonates. Thomas Aquinas would, he would say that all of us, our real nature resonates with God. And so Thomas Aquinas finds those parts of us that already, not Thomas Aquinas, he does too, but prophets find the part of us that already resonates with the gospel and just amplify that. I think in our life we need to balance our life with both people. We need to have those people that recognize where we already agree but amplify it more towards the gospel. I'm always fond of saying when I talk with, like in ecumenical groups, every Christian church I know thinks we should feed the poor. So why are we wasting time debating the things we disagree on? We've got something we agree on. Why aren't we doing it? Eh, it's just, you know, it's much more exciting to argue about the things we disagree on. That's the dark spirit, you know. The prophetic spirit says, well let's take what we agree on and let's get that amplified. Let's make that larger. It's the, in the magnificat, you know, magnifies the spirit, magnifies the soul, magnifies the heart. Why aren't we finding the people that bring that out in us? But also courting the people in our lives, not the evil spirits, but one of these things, in context of Jesus, these spirits are opposing spirits. And most of us, I checked through the register to make sure, Jesus himself is not a registered prisoner so I can say this to all of you. Your opposite in the world is not pure evil because you are not pure good. Our opposing spirits actually have something to say to us. The people that we disagree with may have a point. The person who drives me up a tree is not a unique idea in the world. They are not alone. They have people who think like them. And it's so important for us to have people that make us a little less comfortable. There is a, I think, a huge misnomer in our culture, probably in many cultures, that we believe winning an argument, think about it for a minute, I know I've won an argument when I leave it having not grown at all and come out of it thinking exactly what I thought. Maybe they changed, maybe they grew, but then they won. We think winning an argument is when we stand still and wait for the world to center on us. That's not winning. That's, you know, that's paralysis. To win an argument, both people have to be affected. That's the win. And so we need the people in our lives who challenge us. I always think we see this so clearly in the Catholic Church right now. It's been fun to watch every Catholic I know, the liberals and the conservatives both, it's been so fun to watch them live from JP II to Francis. Because everyone struggles with either JP II or Benedict or Francis. One of them makes them uncomfortable. And while they'll all say, you must, it's the Pope, it's must, it's the Pope, it's the Pope, what happens when one of the Popes disagrees with them? They get very quiet. And it turns out that they think the Pope is infallible when the Pope agrees with them. Meaning deep down they think they're infallible and once in a while the Holy Spirit leads the Pope to agree with them. No, that's not the theology of the Church. And so, you know, all the people who cried out that you can't disagree with one Pope, you know, it's one thing we can be absolutely certain of as Catholics, it would be foolish to ascribe any kind of authority to one of the Popes that you can't ascribe to all of them. You know, you can't ascribe it to your favorites and not to the others. There's a thing in theology and philosophy, which I said at the last homily, but I'm much more nervous now because, you know, Father Abraham is getting his doctorate in philosophy so I really have to actually have to make this line. But there are kind of three types of statements in both philosophy and theology, but more even in just human psychology. There are rational and irrational, but then there's a third called non-rational. Now, a rational statement is something the human mind seems to be built to grab onto. Two plus two equals four. I don't care what language you're talking in, you show a child this many fingers and this many fingers and tell them it's that many, they'll get that eventually. And they can build systems on it. But if you try to teach a child that this many and this many gets put together to that, to five, if you try and teach two plus two is five, they'll try to figure out what's wrong with that, it won't happen, you cannot build a system of math on it. One of those is rational and the other is irrational. Then someone comes along and says, two plus two is good. That is non-rational. The mind is not forced there. You can't prove it, you can't disprove it. The mind is not forced away from it. Two plus two is good is something you have to choose to base your life on or not. You know, it's important to you or it's not. Most of our fundamental theology goes to that area, it's the non-rational. Nothing is sadder than watching people trying to scientifically prove their faith. Because what they're really saying is, once science says so, then it will be real. When my faith says so, it's not. That's a horrible statement. Our faith, our belief, the things we've been given from our community, the things we've been given from our family, it's a different kind of reality. That God exists, you can choose not to believe. God has created it such that you aren't forced to. Because if we're forced to, then there's no such thing as faith. And so we come as a people going, you know, our faith is a series of choices. And too often they're intellectual choices, they're not choices to get out and do the work. To get out and help those who have less, help those who are struggling more. Recognize how many people struggle in the world. And we're called to make that choice. We will never get irrefutable proof. And whenever someone tries, you know, we end up with, I think I've told you before, in the late 80s, some group in Europe was trying to slice very thin layers of a host, a consecrated host, and they were gonna thin layers and put it under a microscope and stain it, and they found human cells. Okay, basically a couple people decided to desecrate a host. Oh, but we see the human cells. No, you didn't. Number one, it's not science, it's faith. Number two, Jesus didn't turn into what he was before the resurrection. So you'd not even be proving good faith. But they need because they trust science and they don't trust their faith. I think if we're going to trust our faith, we do it because we have people of faith. We have some who will disagree with us and will argue with us and will change us and let us change them and we will grow together. And then we have the others who seem to agree with us on everything and hopefully, together we amplify one another into action in the world. When we've got the prophet and the opposing spirits in our life, we don't have to, as our country has done too often, we don't have to have a tragic gap. We can have a fruitful tension. Too often we choose the tragic gap and we become polarized. But there is a fruitful tension between all the voices in scripture, all the voices in our families, all the voices in our church. There's a fruitful tension that leads us to something that is mystery. If you're coming to your faith for answers, it will drive you crazy. When you come to your faith for questions and for motivation and for the ability to get out and help change the world, it becomes such a fruitful garden. And we ask God today to raise up the prophets who will spur us on to action, remind us of those who have less. We ask God to stir up the people in our lives who will challenge us when we think we, not the church, but we personally, are a little too infallible, that they will be there too. And between the spirits and the prophets, that there'll be a fruitful tension that will unveil for us a road of growth, will unveil for us a way to change the world, to bring from the two dramatic polarized sides that have a gap between them a fruitful tension. 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The Lord be with you.

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And with your spirit.

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A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Mark.

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Glory to you, O Lord.

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They then came to Capernaum, and on the Sabbath,

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Jesus entered the synagogue and taught.

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The people were astonished at his teaching,

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for he taught them as one having authority and not

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as the scribes.

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In their synagogue was a man with an unclean spirit.

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He cried out, what have you to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth?

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Have you come to destroy us?

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I know who you are, the Holy One of God.

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Jesus rebuked him and said, quiet, come out of him.

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The unclean spirit convulsed him and with a loud cry

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came out of him.

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All were amazed and asked one another, what is this,

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a new teaching with authority?

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He commands even the unclean spirits, and they obey him.

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His fame spread everywhere throughout the whole region

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of Galilee.

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The Gospel of the Lord.

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Praise to you, Lord Jesus Christ.

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I'm not sure that there is a Sunday

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in the entire liturgical cycle with three readings that

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have less to do with one another than today.

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We have three readings on completely different topics.

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And I have also never been in any Bible study

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anywhere where any of these were quoted

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as anyone's favorite scripture.

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They're all kind of quirky in their own way.

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But they give us together, in a sense,

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they do give us three voices which can balance us and give

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us a method for moving forward and growing

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in our Christian faith.

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And sometimes that is the greatest thing

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scripture can do for us.

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Sometimes the great thing that scripture does,

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it doesn't paint an absolute picture of something.

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It tells you one story of God where he says,

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let there be light, and there's light.

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And another story where God comes down and shapes us

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out of the clay and says, clearly that one's too human

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and that one may be too austere.

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Find something between there.

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Live with the tension of the two stories that don't line up.

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Scripture does that for us a lot.

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Today, we get three different visions

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of interactions with faith.

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I want to start with the one that is most fun,

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that second reading.

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Because I saw so many of you, so many expressions of really?

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Paul is his personality.

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St. Paul is a zealot.

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That is his basic personality.

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Before he becomes Paul, when he is on the side against Jesus

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and the early Christians, he is all in.

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He is on the move.

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He is going to route them out.

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He is going to get rid of them.

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And when he becomes Christian, he

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is going to route out everyone else,

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and he's going to make sure everyone's Christian.

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Paul is probably, my suspicion, exhausting to be around.

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But he's that person you would put

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in charge of every building campaign,

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because he would get it done.

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Paul is very much what we would call a man of action.

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Of all the things that people can say about St. Paul,

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no one can ever claim that he did not

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back up his preaching with the way he lived.

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I mean, this became his life.

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Almost to an obsessive focus, that became his life.

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So much so that, yes, we get a reading like today.

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In Paul's mind, the world divides neatly

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into two groups of people.

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Those who are single, and as we know,

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single people spend every moment of the day

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obsessed with how they can please God.

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Would that it were so.

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But there are dating websites that

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would seem to indicate otherwise.

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So he's got one group of people that he thinks,

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if you're not married, then you're anxious

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about God all day long.

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Paul is anxious about, he is consumed by it.

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It's not the normal experience.

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I think we should all have a little more Paul in us,

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not too much, but all have a little more.

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Then he also, and this is truly a view

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from the other side of the fence,

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spouses spend 24 hours a day obsessed

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with pleasing one another.

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That is one of those moments where my mother would say,

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Paul was never married.

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Paul was never married.

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But it's his vision, and it's kind

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of his vision of how he wishes the world were.

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Wouldn't it be interesting, but take out the marriage piece

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as such a hard defined line there,

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and think, what would it be like to live in a world

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where everyone was either consumed with pleasing God

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or consumed with pleasing others?

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It's not a bad vision of the world,

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really out to help others, really out

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to do what is best for others, really

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out to do what is best for the mission of God.

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It's not a bad vision, but it's so focused,

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and it so comes out of his that it has some limited help

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for most of us.

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But the other two visions stand, in my mind,

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like bookends to where our Christian debate,

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where our philosophies, where everything sort of lands.

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And that is the prophet and the unclean spirits.

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Now, this story of the unclean spirits,

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there's several variations of it in the gospel.

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There's evil spirits, demonic spirits,

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there's one, there's a dozen.

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One of the mysteries that scripture scholars

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deal with a lot is, it seems that these are the first people

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to recognize who Jesus is, not even people.

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Now, why is it that they recognize Jesus

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before everyone else?

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Now, when they say that, they're forgetting

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about Simeon and Anna, the prophetess and prophet

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at his birth, at his christening,

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that recognize him for who he is.

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But why is it that these unclean spirits,

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before the general population,

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why are they always the first ones, it seems,

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in the story to recognize who Jesus is?

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And scholars come up with all sorts of reasons

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and all sorts of ideas, but there's a level

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at which it makes great sense to me

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that they would be the first.

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Because it is the nature of darkness,

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it is the nature of, whether we call it unclean

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or evil or whatever, the demonic,

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it is the nature of that dynamic to recognize enemies.

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And Jesus stands as their enemy.

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And all of us have a bit of that in us.

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All of us are much better at figuring out

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who our enemy is in the world.

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And not so good at figuring out where the common ground is.

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You know, we look at people in other countries

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and we forget that they go through

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all the same messes we go through.

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Around the world, fathers cry at daughters' weddings.

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You know, around the world, these things happen.

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And it's so much easier for us to focus on the differences.

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And that is where we are just like these unclean spirits.

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They see Jesus, not because they have

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an innate ability to see God,

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but because they have an innate ability

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to see what is different from them.

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They will recognize the person set against them.

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And so, you know, what we need to become

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are people that recognize God because the goodness in us

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sees what the affinity is, not the other way.

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Not because, you know, fear of hell

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and that sort of approach.

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There's a lot of people who their belief in God

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comes out of their belief in evil.

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And how we're gonna overcome it.

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How we're gonna get rid of that.

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How we're gonna make sure those people are,

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that is the unclean spirit recognizing God.

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It is not the prophet.

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Now the prophet does the opposite.

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The prophet takes that part of us that already resonates.

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Thomas Aquinas would, he would say that all of us,

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our real nature resonates with God.

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And so Thomas Aquinas finds those parts of us

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that already, not Thomas Aquinas, he does too,

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but prophets find the part of us

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that already resonates with the gospel

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and just amplify that.

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I think in our life we need to balance our life

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with both people.

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We need to have those people that recognize

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where we already agree but amplify it more

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towards the gospel.

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I'm always fond of saying when I talk with,

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like in ecumenical groups, every Christian church I know

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thinks we should feed the poor.

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So why are we wasting time debating the things

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we disagree on?

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We've got something we agree on.

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Why aren't we doing it?

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Eh, it's just, you know, it's much more exciting

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to argue about the things we disagree on.

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That's the dark spirit, you know.

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The prophetic spirit says, well let's take what we agree on

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and let's get that amplified.

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Let's make that larger.

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It's the, in the magnificat, you know, magnifies the spirit,

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magnifies the soul, magnifies the heart.

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Why aren't we finding the people that bring that out in us?

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But also courting the people in our lives,

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not the evil spirits, but one of these things,

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in context of Jesus, these spirits are opposing spirits.

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And most of us, I checked through the register

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to make sure, Jesus himself is not a registered prisoner

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so I can say this to all of you.

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Your opposite in the world is not pure evil

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because you are not pure good.

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Our opposing spirits actually have something to say to us.

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The people that we disagree with may have a point.

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The person who drives me up a tree

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is not a unique idea in the world.

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They are not alone.

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They have people who think like them.

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And it's so important for us to have people

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that make us a little less comfortable.

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There is a, I think, a huge misnomer in our culture,

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probably in many cultures,

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that we believe winning an argument,

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think about it for a minute,

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I know I've won an argument when I leave it

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having not grown at all and come out of it

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thinking exactly what I thought.

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Maybe they changed, maybe they grew, but then they won.

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We think winning an argument is when we stand still

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and wait for the world to center on us.

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That's not winning.

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That's, you know, that's paralysis.

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To win an argument, both people have to be affected.

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That's the win.

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And so we need the people in our lives who challenge us.

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I always think we see this so clearly

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in the Catholic Church right now.

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It's been fun to watch every Catholic I know,

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the liberals and the conservatives both,

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it's been so fun to watch them live from JP II to Francis.

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Because everyone struggles with either JP II

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or Benedict or Francis.

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One of them makes them uncomfortable.

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And while they'll all say, you must, it's the Pope,

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it's must, it's the Pope, it's the Pope,

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what happens when one of the Popes disagrees with them?

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They get very quiet.

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And it turns out that they think the Pope is infallible

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when the Pope agrees with them.

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Meaning deep down they think they're infallible

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and once in a while the Holy Spirit leads the Pope

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to agree with them.

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No, that's not the theology of the Church.

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And so, you know, all the people who cried out

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that you can't disagree with one Pope,

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you know, it's one thing we can be absolutely certain of

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as Catholics, it would be foolish to ascribe

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any kind of authority to one of the Popes

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that you can't ascribe to all of them.

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You know, you can't ascribe it to your favorites

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and not to the others.

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There's a thing in theology and philosophy,

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which I said at the last homily,

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but I'm much more nervous now because, you know,

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Father Abraham is getting his doctorate in philosophy

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so I really have to actually have to make this line.

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But there are kind of three types of statements

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in both philosophy and theology,

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but more even in just human psychology.

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There are rational and irrational,

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but then there's a third called non-rational.

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Now, a rational statement is something the human mind

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seems to be built to grab onto.

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Two plus two equals four.

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I don't care what language you're talking in,

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you show a child this many fingers and this many fingers

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and tell them it's that many, they'll get that eventually.

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And they can build systems on it.

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But if you try to teach a child that this many

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and this many gets put together to that, to five,

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if you try and teach two plus two is five,

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they'll try to figure out what's wrong with that,

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it won't happen, you cannot build a system of math on it.

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One of those is rational and the other is irrational.

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Then someone comes along and says, two plus two is good.

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That is non-rational.

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The mind is not forced there.

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You can't prove it, you can't disprove it.

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The mind is not forced away from it.

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Two plus two is good is something you have to choose

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to base your life on or not.

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You know, it's important to you or it's not.

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Most of our fundamental theology goes to that area,

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it's the non-rational.

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Nothing is sadder than watching people

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trying to scientifically prove their faith.

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Because what they're really saying is,

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once science says so, then it will be real.

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When my faith says so, it's not.

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That's a horrible statement.

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Our faith, our belief, the things we've been given

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from our community, the things we've been given

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from our family, it's a different kind of reality.

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That God exists, you can choose not to believe.

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God has created it such that you aren't forced to.

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Because if we're forced to,

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then there's no such thing as faith.

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And so we come as a people going, you know,

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our faith is a series of choices.

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And too often they're intellectual choices,

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they're not choices to get out and do the work.

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To get out and help those who have less,

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help those who are struggling more.

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Recognize how many people struggle in the world.

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And we're called to make that choice.

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We will never get irrefutable proof.

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And whenever someone tries, you know, we end up with,

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I think I've told you before, in the late 80s,

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some group in Europe was trying to slice

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very thin layers of a host, a consecrated host,

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and they were gonna thin layers

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and put it under a microscope and stain it,

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and they found human cells.

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Okay, basically a couple people

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decided to desecrate a host.

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Oh, but we see the human cells.

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No, you didn't.

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Number one, it's not science, it's faith.

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Number two, Jesus didn't turn into what he was

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before the resurrection.

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So you'd not even be proving good faith.

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But they need because they trust science

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and they don't trust their faith.

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I think if we're going to trust our faith,

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we do it because we have people of faith.

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We have some who will disagree with us

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and will argue with us and will change us

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and let us change them and we will grow together.

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And then we have the others who seem to agree with us

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on everything and hopefully,

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together we amplify one another into action in the world.

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When we've got the prophet

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and the opposing spirits in our life,

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we don't have to, as our country has done too often,

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we don't have to have a tragic gap.

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We can have a fruitful tension.

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Too often we choose the tragic gap and we become polarized.

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But there is a fruitful tension

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between all the voices in scripture,

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all the voices in our families,

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all the voices in our church.

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There's a fruitful tension that leads us

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to something that is mystery.

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If you're coming to your faith for answers,

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it will drive you crazy.

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When you come to your faith for questions

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and for motivation and for the ability to get out

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and help change the world,

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it becomes such a fruitful garden.

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And we ask God today to raise up the prophets

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who will spur us on to action,

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remind us of those who have less.

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We ask God to stir up the people in our lives

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who will challenge us when we think we,

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not the church, but we personally,

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are a little too infallible,

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that they will be there too.

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And between the spirits and the prophets,

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that there'll be a fruitful tension

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that will unveil for us a road of growth,

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will unveil for us a way to change the world,

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to bring from the two dramatic polarized sides

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that have a gap between them a fruitful tension.

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And in that tension, we will find the kingdom of God.

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Father Pat’s message is a reflection on the complexity of scripture, the diversity of voices within the readings, and how, rather than offering a singular, absolute truth, scripture often invites us into a dynamic tension—a space where differing perspectives, like those of prophets and opposing spirits, challenge, refine, and ultimately enrich our faith. By engaging both those who affirm us and those who confront us, we are called not to rigidity or polarization, but to growth, humility, and action. Faith is not meant to be a fortress of certainty but a journey shaped by dialogue, mystery, and the lived commitment to love God and others.

In his homily, Father Pat begins by acknowledging the apparent disconnection among the day’s three scripture readings, noting that they cover vastly different themes and none are typically quoted as favorites. Yet, he shows how their diversity is precisely what makes them powerful: they represent different voices of faith and offer us a method for spiritual growth through contrast and reflection. Scripture, he explains, often presents us with narratives that are in tension with each other—like the God who effortlessly says “Let there be light” and the God who gets His hands dirty forming humans from clay. These diverse portrayals are not contradictions to be resolved but invitations to live within the fruitful tension they create. They teach us to find balance and discernment, rather than seek simplistic answers.

Father Pat dives deeper into the second reading from St. Paul, whose zealous personality colored his theology. Paul divides the world into singles, who he believes are wholly devoted to pleasing God, and married people, who are consumed with pleasing one another. While Father Pat humorously critiques Paul’s overly idealistic (and perhaps naive) view of singleness and marriage, he appreciates Paul’s total commitment to his beliefs and his actions. Paul, for all his intensity, invites reflection on what it would look like if everyone lived to please God or to serve others. While such a binary view may not be practical for most, it urges us to consider how much of our lives are oriented toward divine or selfless purpose. We are reminded to embrace a measure of Paul's passion, even if not his extremism.

Turning to the Gospel, Father Pat explores the episode where Jesus casts out an unclean spirit in the synagogue. He observes that, intriguingly, these demonic or unclean spirits are often the first to recognize Jesus as the Holy One of God. Why is it that evil recognizes Christ before others do? His insightful answer is that darkness is finely attuned to its opposition. Evil identifies its enemy quickly, just as we humans are often quicker to identify threats than to seek common ground. The unclean spirits see Jesus not because they are holy, but because they innately sense what opposes them. This dynamic mirrors our own tendencies to define ourselves by opposition—by identifying enemies rather than seeking shared humanity. Father Pat warns that a faith rooted in the fear of hell or opposition to evil risks being more like the unclean spirits than the saints. Instead, we are called to be like the prophets, who identify and amplify the good already present within us and the world.

The prophet, unlike the opposing spirit, does not define truth by conflict but by resonance. Prophets awaken in us the deepest parts that are already in tune with God’s will. They magnify the voice of God within us, calling us to action, to mercy, and to justice. This is the prophetic spirit that says, “We already agree on feeding the poor—so let’s do that.” Rather than magnifying our divisions, prophets magnify our common call to love and service. Yet, Father Pat cautions, we need both voices in our lives: those who affirm and those who challenge. The people who make us uncomfortable, who disagree with us, who force us to grow—they are not our enemies, but spiritual companions who help refine our faith. He reminds us that our opponents are not evil incarnate, just as we are not perfect good. We are all in need of growth, correction, and humility.

This leads to a broader reflection on the nature of truth and belief. Father Pat distinguishes between rational, irrational, and non-rational statements. Rational truths (like 2+2=4) can be proven; irrational ones are false; but non-rational truths—such as “God is good” or “Two plus two is beautiful”—cannot be proven or disproven. Most of faith resides in this non-rational realm. It is not less real because it cannot be scientifically verified; it is a different kind of reality. When people try to “prove” faith through science or miracles, they inadvertently undermine its essence. Faith is a choice, not a conclusion. If belief were forced, there would be no room for true faith. God creates space for freedom, not coercion, and faith flourishes in that freedom.

Father Pat challenges the modern obsession with being right. He critiques the idea that winning an argument means remaining unchanged while others conform to us. True spiritual victory is mutual transformation. We grow when we allow others to affect us, and we affect them in turn. He applies this to the Church itself, noting how Catholics of different ideological leanings often selectively embrace or ignore the teachings of different popes based on personal preference. This reveals not true obedience to the Church but inner pride—the belief that one is infallible, and the pope is only correct when he agrees with them. Instead, the challenge is to submit not to personal preference but to the Church as a whole, in its diversity and mystery.

Ultimately, Father Pat calls for “fruitful tension” rather than a “tragic gap.” Our world, including the Church, often succumbs to tragic polarization. But the differing voices—of scripture, of spiritual companions, of theological perspectives—are not meant to divide us but to enrich us through their tension. Prophets and opposing spirits, affirmation and challenge, rational and non-rational truths—these are not contradictory forces but complementary ones. Within the tension of differing voices lies the mystery of God. Faith is not about having all the answers but about allowing the questions, the challenges, and the community to lead us toward deeper love, deeper service, and a more authentic encounter with the Kingdom of God.

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